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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 08:24 PM
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U.S. suspects new weapons sites
U.S. suspects new weapons sites
By John Diamond, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Iraqi scientists and documents from Saddam Hussein's regime are leading U.S. and allied investigators to new sites suspected of being part of Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction program, the CIA's special adviser on the weapons search said Thursday.
No actual chemical or biological weapons have been found in six weeks of intensive searching and details of the new findings will remain classified until U.S. intelligence concludes they amount to an irrefutable case that can be presented to the public. But the probe has discovered new evidence of Iraqi efforts to hide its weapons programs from international inspectors — evidence being provided by the Iraqi officials who were in charge of concealing those programs.

"We are, as we speak, involved in sensitive exploitation of sites that we are being led to by Iraqis," David Kay told reporters after a closed briefing with lawmakers. "We have Iraqi scientists who were involved in these programs who are assisting us in taking them apart. They are cooperating."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-07-31-cia-weapons_x.htm

WHAT DO YOU ALL MAKE OF THIS? Seems like bullshit to me!
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 08:27 PM
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1. it's not what the Washington Post reported today; they reported
that NO scientists have told them anything except that there were no weapons--they were all destroyed.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 08:27 PM
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2. They need time
Edited on Thu Jul-31-03 08:30 PM by CWebster
to set everything up.

Strategically timed to be discovered for political purposes.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 08:31 PM
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3. Dunno about this...
I think they've found minute amounts of something chemical or biological but they are waiting for the opportune time to spring it...and spin it. I think that's why Bush was so damned cocky at that press conference yesterday.
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Dem2dend Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 11:43 PM
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7. I fear...
They've got something concrete. That's why Bush accepted all the blame for the SOTU speech. I think he's waiting to release it.
Hillary is the only one who hasn't made a big deal about WMD. She can use that to her advantage against everyone else.
Does this sound crazy?
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 09:38 PM
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4. Even if it's true. . .
Which I don't believe for a minute, the minute traces of this, the difficulty of finding that, etc., strongly suggests to me that these capabilities did not pose an imminent threat, which was the threat upon which the war was based. This is hogwash!
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 09:42 PM
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6. I'm with you matt819!
Total hogwash!!!
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 09:41 PM
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5. And I just betcha
those incompetent weapons inspectors would have never found those programs.
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wontmoveon Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 11:54 PM
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8. Weapons programs vs WMDs? What is going on?
Before we invaded it was all about the "the worlds most dangerous men having the world's most
dangerous weapons" not weapons programs. And it was about "weapons of mass destruction" not weapons.
And your attention is being diverted from 9/11 and those behind it. It's Iraq and Saddam all the time
all day long. no wonder most people think Saddam was behind 9/11. The administration with the help
of the FOX, Rush, and the rest of the media are brainwashing them.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 11:55 PM
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9. Given past news, it seems likely...
... that they're onto something like the centrifuge parts under the rose bushes, only this time it's about chemical or biological weapons.

Chances are there's stuff buried somewhere, which has been buried for a long time, not useful for warfare in any way, but will be something they can claim loudly as showing the Iraqis had a "program." That's why there's been so much emphasis on the word "program" lately. They've had this evidence for a while, and they're prepping the public to accept it as _the_ evidence.

Of course, the UN weapons inspectors will say, "but, it's worthless. It's been buried for twelve years," but that news won't get out to the extent the initial announcement would.

The only thing that will help blunt this is some in-depth reporting on David Kay himself. Kay is probably a con man with an ideology. He was dismissed from the UNSCOM team very early on for what was generally described as "unethical behavior." I haven't read more on that, so it's just my speculation that he was fabricating evidence or misrepresenting findings. And, he's very close to the military through his association with SAIC. He's the perfect guy to do what the Bush administration wants with regard to WMD evidence.

Cheers.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:07 AM
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10. What Year?
That'll be the question. Quick deciphering of whatever Kay presents to see what year his 'evidence' is going to justify. 1994? 1997? I suspect that's what they'll do, the same old mix up job of 'uncovering' old program information and pretending it's new.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:41 AM
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11. Just how long
does it take to fly in, bury, and then "discover" 30,000 chemical warheads and 500 tons of Sarin Nerve Gas anyways?
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