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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 11:56 PM
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How do you find it, these days?
Edited on Fri Aug-01-03 12:31 AM by Must_B_Free
that each day it seems more and more like the 'tinfoil hatters' like myself, the "mad ranters", are becoming more and more vindicated each day, with each official media validation of details we have known for years? (and new allegations, that also seem to follow suit).

When you look at the history of man, is it really so shocking? Did you think that we were above falling prey to dictators? Did you really think they wouldn't send boys off to die, just to grab power? Did you think that we really "finally got rid of" the mob, like they say at the end of every gangster movie? Now our top leaders plot to "rub out" what they call "human garbage" - figures and families of their choosing.

It's to the point where I tell people I know - "think". I say, "How can you say you like Bush"? I bring them through the recent history they remember and conclude with how obvious it is that Bush had lied about every single thing, since day one, and do you now what they say? They say "I don't like to think about it"

Look, it was bound to happen. Corporate personhood is our dictator. Now your master contols your entire life. You live in a little box in a large beehive like structure. You can't grow food, you don't even know where any dirt is. You are dependent on them for healthcare, for food, for everything in your life.

Every day you go to work to serve them. You work hard for them.. You will for the rest of your life, until you are a worn out butt end of a pencil. Then, when you are scraping a metal edge against the page, they will let you have the remains of your life, so you can buy their medicine, that actually grows wild, but you have to pay them to process, certify and bottle it for you.

Welcome, my friend, to the machine.

And junior is laughing in your face as he places a bet that your son will explode today.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:23 AM
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1. Deleted - decided my post was not appropriate for this thread.......
Edited on Fri Aug-01-03 12:34 AM by DagmarK
sorry mustbefree.

This is a thread, I think, more geared toward coping day to day with our situation. And my post was .....well, dour in its analysis of the problem. So I started a separate thread.
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alaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:24 AM
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2. Chrystos has a poem where someone asks her, "How
do you go on?" and she replies "I'm alive, I'm loved, there's work to do." This is a woman who was raped and beaten throughout her entire childhood, ran away from home at 17 and became a junkie and a prostitute, was in and out of mental institutions throughout her twenties, got clean and sober in her thirties and has become a celebrated poet and artist. Not to mention the fact that she is Native American and deals everyday with racism and the genocide of her people and seeing her ancestors land raped everyday by whites, whom she refers to as "the okeydokey tribe".

So I guess I think about her, and all Native Americans, and I get strength from that. Plus I have eleven animals I care for and they taught me that this culture through it's homophobia and sexism stole my ability to GIVE love, and once I got this back I have always gained strength from loving my animals, because they are even more at the mercy of this government than I am. (Animal shelters fill up quick during economic downturns). Sometimes I get in this bleak mood like you are describing, but I believe our souls are eternal, so that I go on long after here, and this is a goddamn beautiful planet. I know karmically that I am alot better off than any of the sickos because they can't ever, ever get enough. That must be miserable.
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 10:53 PM
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6. beautiful post,
alaine. It is motivating to read about this example of a genuine Native American and her insights.

"This is a goddamn beautiful planet."
Those of us who appreciate and love nature are far richer than the empty souls who dislike it or seek short term profit from it's destruction. I wonder, how mortal polluter can even look their children / grandchildren in the eyes, knowing their sins against the future . . .

Fuck their Machine (love of manna).
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iangb Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:39 AM
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3. I'm both scared and.....
.....amazed.

Scared at seeing such a powerful nation with a bunch of certifiable crazies at the helm.

Amazed that the American people are letting it happen.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:47 AM
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4. I disagree
Edited on Fri Aug-01-03 12:47 AM by NJCher
One could make your case at just about any point in the last 30 years.

You can grow your own food using space-intensive gardening techniques. And you can find a way to make money outside of big corporations, too. Academia, entrepreneurial endeavors, small businesses; there are plenty of ways. One can't go at it mindlessly, however. It has to be thought out and planned.


Cher
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iangb Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 06:12 PM
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5. But Cher....
....those solutions are no different to the "I'm going to Canada" idea.
Sure you can opt out....grow your own food, knit your own SUV etc., and hope the steamroller runs out of puff before it gets to your neck of the woods, but meanwhile your country is off to hell in a handbasket.

The difference now is that instead of the Government having corporate backing.....the corporates have the Government as a front.
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