Lets stop playing this game X doesn't have a chance

[Must_B_Free]

Gore has a chance, Dean has a chance, Kerry has a chance

Noone else really has a chance, I'll admit it, but any of the bigger names has a chance.

I like Kucinich, but my fear would be that he is so sophisticated that the average dolt wouldn't get him.

I agree with another poster - put Gore out there shooting a duck or a deer and we can take back america.


who to run with him? Hillary, Kerry or Clark?

[Joe the Revelator]

1. Gore/Clark

and the whitehouse is ours again

[xxqqqzme]

2. if U thought the corporate media

treated Gore like crap in '00 (and they did) just imagine the shitstorm if he changes his position & runs! It will B all the opening paragraphs 4 months. He can't B trusted - blah, blah, blah. Gore will never get a break from the BFEE pimp parade.

[WindRavenX]

3. My thoughts exactly

I think people are afraid to be realistic with some canidates and their ability to win votes- Gore will not be a friendly, accessable canidate. The media, as I have said before, loves to rip him apart and the public will simply not vote for him again. Same with Kucinich-he's the Gore of 2004. This election is about putting the man who is most likely to take down Bush- not the man we most want to be in the white house. Until the Senate is firmly in Democratic hands, running canidates that will come off as "far-left" (even though they aren't really, as Gore is a bit, IMO, left of the Democratic party but by no means is he flaming radical liberal) will not win elections and will not help the liberal cause by having more men like Bush in the White House. This is reality, and I know it sucks. I'd much rather have Gore in the White House than Kerry or Dean or Kucinich, but Gore just doesn't have a shot, IMO.

[enki23]

4. so apparently your statement doesn't hold for all values of X

;-)

[Must_B_Free]

6. yeah I realized that after I had written the title

then I just decided to try to change the subject

but at least I was honest

[Mairead]

5. If you like Kucinich's policies, perhaps you should be supporting him?

Why settle for second best when you can have the best? All it takes is work.

This could be our last chance. There's at least one very smart man, a computer pioneer now in his late 70s, who believes that this is our last chance to take back our country peacefully. He is convinced that if we fail to turn the country around in 2004, doing it after that will require real blood--ours and theirs--in the streets. Do we want that?

[Must_B_Free]

7. Because everyone says he cant win

I like Kucinch and Gore. Probably Gore more, but maybe youre right about the media.

I saw the bit at the end of tweety and they already had tweety and some other goon bashing gore again and I was thinking "I just can't stand to go through this broken record again" It was so goddam annoying that they were already dumping bullshit on Gore I don't know. Tweety said if he comes back "we'll get him again."

I like Kerry. he reminds me of Abe Lincoln now, instead of a waimariner. Rides a hog, attends peace rallies with John Lennon, looks stoic like JFK, whaddya want?

Still, Gore could get a grassroots thing going on and even a campaign to hit media agencies and attack them for the smear pieces. The brazenness of Tweety saying "we'll get him" was really uncalled for. I don't think he meant "we'll receive him as a candidate". Gore with a gun and a dead duck could win the south. Put some green cammoflage on him, some dayglow orange, he's a local. Don't put him in that red plaid stuf, that's rich guy stuff.

[Mairead]

14. Remember that he's not running a foot race

Whether he can win or not is up to us more than it's up to him. All he can do is put his message on the table. He can tell us where he stands and where he wants to take us, and then ask that we support him if we want to go there. It's up to us after that, not him. If enough of us work for him, he'll win. It really is exactly as simple as that.

So unless you positively want second best (and I can't imagine why you would), then your only sane course of action is to support the best: Dennis Kucinich.

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[enki23]

9. you know, i used to hunt.

Of course, i can shoot AND spell. And walk, and chew gum, and type with all ten fingers... (in my case that's two sets of five)

[TahitiNut]

10. So f*cking what??

If I like what a candidate says, I'll help pay for them to say it!

It's more about hearing the message today than about what happens tomorrow! Cripes!! All the gnashing of teeth and whining on DU about how Dems aren't speaking out and then, when some of them do, we get this bullshit about how they aren't 'electable'?!?! So fscking what?

Jeeze, Louise! Stop helping the Reich kill the messengers!

If you want the message to be heard, help the messenger.

[revcarol]

11. I am soooo ANGRY.

You say you want to quit this destructive practice, and then YOU DO IT YOURSELF with Kucinich.

DISGUSTED.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. I Say The X Game Is Important

We have to nominate the candidate who has the best chance of winning.

If politics is a competition isn't it reasonable to choose the competitor who has the best chance of success.

[NicRic]

13. The answer is GORE !!!!!

Re-Elect Gore in 2004 !!!!

[Mairead]

16. Whether someone 'has the best chance of winning' is not a property

in them, it's a property in us. We and we alone determine who 'has the best chance of winning'.

We should keep that fact in mind. And it is a fact.

[Nederland]

15. I think

The title of your thread should have been:

"Let's stop playing this game X doesn't have a chance (except when X is Moseley Braun, Sharpton, Graham, Edwards, Kucinich, or Lieberman)"

[revcarol]

17. It's still early days yet.

I want to hear the ideas of ALL the candidates!!Every one has strengths that could enrich our nation.

Prematurely treating this as a horse race like the media wants us to just means that we won't hear from the diversity of views that have made our party and our country creatively solve many of its problems.

As far as I am concerned, until a candidate drops out him/herself, we should listen to all, with an open mind, a discerning mind, an enquiring mind, and stop all this:SO AND SO DOESN'T STAND A CHANCE!!

Hey, most of them would make great cabinet members,or judges or ambassadors in the NEW DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATION!!Let's see their talents!!