Possibility: Corporations will be the scapegoat for the Iraq war.

[keopeli]

Drawing on the example of Vietnam, our most recent catastrophic military embarassment prior to modern times, we may suggest that the U.S. population will, following the resolution of a conflict, want a scapegoat. After Vietnam, the returning soldier was ignored, becoming the scapegoat for a war that spanned two Presidents. Is it possible that, following the current US conflict, it will be corporations who suffer the indignation of the US population?

[Old and In the Way]

1. A corrupt administrations and embedded companies are two sides

of the same coin.

[AngryYoungMan]

2. Fine with me!

They deserve it.

In my opinion (and I've been trying to turn this into a homily), "The primary purpose of government in today's world is to protect individuals from the harm corporations will do to them."

[burrowowl]

3. Scapegoat!

No! scapegoats are innocent.
CORPORATIONS are not, they are guilty of making money on the death of unrich people and the destruction of the commonweal!
The scapegoat: the sins of the people were projected onto the scapegoat, then it was sacrificed to cleanse the people of sin.

[aquart]

4. Oh, I do hope so.

They would finally have something honestly earned.

[peacetalksforall]

5. Go see The Fog of War

Let the visuals ride your unconscious...you may be overwhelmed by the industry of war. The corporations make out and the laborers make out. And only x per cent get killed. A good deal?

After so many wars and our ever increasing levels of insight, it is time that the administrations and congresses who bring the military together with corporate ceos and bankers become exposed. We are always blaming someone else in the world, some political cloud of threat. OUR COUNTRY CREATES AND MANUFACTURES WAR. If you turn everything upside down and reject the idea that you approve of killing because we are being threatened and you look at it from the point of view of some people becoming very wealthy, you will know that there is no reason under the sun for killing - especially by a CEO. It is time that they are placed on the intellectual hotseat and that we demand that we stop the killing.

Kerry may not be there yet in spite of his war protests. Nor Clark. They have to be reminded. None of them are there for the corporations. They are there for the people. The people want peace and a chance. Not a risky gamble and the crap of lost minds, limbs, and vacancies of parents, children, relatives, friends. NO MORE!

[countmyvote4real]

6. The media whores should share much of the blame.

They gave * a free pass in the 2000 election. And four years later they're just NOW starting to cover the chimp's National Guard service.

They propelled us into this unnecessary war for their ratings (bottom line) by belittling all opposition. They should have to pay for it since they sold it under false pretenses.

Unfortunately, there is no way for them or anyone to compensate for all the innocent lives lost in this boondoggle.

[burrowowl]

8. Who owns the

media whores and why are they whore?
What happened to the 4th Estate?
CORPORATIONS!
Go see what Lincoln had to say about them.

[countmyvote4real]

9. I should have said the media whore corporations.

Sorry. I thought it was IMPLIED in the thread.

[rman]

11. and who owns the government?

to blame corporations would not be scapegoating. as long as we don't forget the media and the politicians who conspired with them.

[2004Donkeys]

7. This is exactly what happened in 1992

Companies were viewed as evil when in fact Bush was responsible for fucking up the economy.

[Broken]

10. hhhmmmmm

"This is exactly what happened in 1992
Companies were viewed as evil when in fact Bush was responsible for fucking up the economy."


You don't think the corporations, Bush and the govt. are in it together? It is the corporations and our political "leaders" who limit the parameters of acceptable debate in the media and political discussions. Thereby controlling what the masses can hear about in our main area of publicizing ideas, like I dunno, alternative political/economic ideas that would make corporations extinct or at least create a social system where workers are put before profits. This makes it so the masses think in only the terms of what our masters allow us.

It's corporate owners who benefit from being taxed less, implemented by politicians who are themselves owners. It is the govt. which has made a corporation as if it were a person with rights yet no responsibilities. It is corporations that use the state to go crush other peoples in the name of aquiring new markets. Like, maybe those pesky wars in the arab world so they can dominate their resources thus monopolizing the market.

It is corporations which created the IMF, WTO, NAFTA and such which limits the bargaining power of workers.


Look, I think people need to face a certain fact of life, wether they agree with our currently held ideology or not.

The very nature of competition is to kill competition. To negate itself. That's how you survive. This in turn creates tyranny. You can deny this, but this is what will happen. It is the very nature of our red tooth and claw/survival of the fittest social system, it has been this way since the begining..

By recognizing this you can have the power to abolish it or better keep it in check.



"Monopoly is the inevitable end of competition, which engen- ders it by a continual negation of itself. This generation of monopoly is in itself a justification of it....

"Monopoly is the natural opposite of competition... but as soon as competition is necessary, it implies the idea of monopoly, since monopoly is, as it were, the seat of each competing individualy."

Pierre Joseph Proudhon

[cryofan]

12. CorpGovMedia should get the blame

Multinational corporations and the elite media working hand in hand with elements of the govt, they have control and are to blame