Treason IS an Impeachable Offense

[Octafish]

Once the media start to look into the AwOL's paperwork, they'll find the name of one James R Bath.

Bath was Bush's TANG buddy who, later in life, became the "business agent" for the bin Mahfouz and bin Laden clans. In addition to investing Saudi, Yemeni and sundry Middle Eastern petrodollars in properties across Texas and Florida, Bath helped them invest in specific businesses like Bush Jr’s Arbusto and HARKEN Energy.

BOTTOM LINE: James R Bath ties Bush and the BFEE to bin Laden, and, thus to 9-11. Bush Knew*. And that’s TREASON.



* and Cheney-n-PNAC planned it.


QUESTIONABLE TIES
Tracking bin Laden's money flow leads back to Midland, Texas
by Wayne Madsen

http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/25/feature3.shtml


The Bush-Saudi Connection
By Michelle Mairesse

http://www.hermes-press.com/BushSaud.htm


The Press on the BCCI-bin Mahfouz-bin Laden Intelligence Nexus
Boston Herald, December 11, 2001

http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/q4c.html


BTW: Here are a few threads on the subject, courtesy of your DU Friends and mine:

Where in the World is James R Bath?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1106153


James Bath suspended from flight along with Dubya, and for the same reason

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1117345


DU Needs a Bath!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1054942

[Alopenia]

1. Oh, please.

We got Bush nailed on enough legitimate issues not to have to resort to sensationalistic stuff like this. It undermines credibility a bit, don't you think?

[Silverhair]

3. A Rep congress is going to impeach a Rep POTUS??????

Besides that, according to the Constitution, a charge of Treason REQUIRES two direct witnesses. You can't use circumstantial stuff.

[Octafish]

9. Good points. The thing is Bush knew and he did nothing to stop 9-11.

There must be dozens of people, if put under oath, would be willing to tell the truth. For example, there's the FBI agents out of Chicago who have come forward to state publickly they were ordered to drop their investigation of the terror funding. Then there's the FBI whistleblowers who warned Washington about the suspected terrorists taking flying lessons in Arizona and Minnesota. FBI at Washington HQ did ZIP. Moussaoui, the "20th hijacker" was only busted when a US Rep came a calling at HQ...

Here's what FBI Special Agent Colleen Rowley wrote:

EXCERPT...

5) During the early aftermath of September 11th, when I happened to be recounting the pre-September 11th events concerning the Moussaoui investigation to other FBI personnel in other divisions or in FBIHQ, almost everyone's first question was "Why?--Why would an FBI agent(s) deliberately sabotage a case? (I know I shouldn't be flippant about this, but jokes were actually made that the key FBIHQ personnel had to be spies or moles, like Robert Hansen, who were actually working for Osama Bin Laden to have so undercut Minneapolis' effort.) Our best real guess, however, is that, in most cases avoidance of all "unnecessary" actions/decisions by FBIHQ managers (and maybe to some extent field managers as well) has, in recent years, been seen as the safest FBI career course. Numerous high-ranking FBI officials who have made decisions or have taken actions which, in hindsight, turned out to be mistaken or just turned out badly (i.e. Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc.) have seen their careers plummet and end. This has in turn resulted in a climate of fear which has chilled aggressive FBI law enforcement action/decisions. In a large hierarchal bureaucracy such as the FBI, with the requirement for numerous superiors approvals/oversight, the premium on career-enhancement, and interjecting a chilling factor brought on by recent extreme public and congressional criticism/oversight, and I think you will see at least the makings of the most likely explanation. Another factor not to be underestimated probably explains the SSA and other FBIHQ personnel's reluctance to act. And so far, I have heard no FBI official even allude to this problem-- which is that FBI Headquarters is staffed with a number of short term careerists* who, like the SSA in question, must only serve an 18 month-just-time-to-get-your-ticket-punched minimum. It's no wonder why very little expertise can be acquired by a Headquarters unit! (And no wonder why FBIHQ is mired in mediocrity! -- that maybe a little strong, but it would definitely be fair to say that there is unevenness in competency among Headquarters personnel.) (It's also a well known fact that the FBI Agents Association has complained for years about the disincentives facing those entering the FBI management career path which results in very few of the FBI's best and brightest choosing to go into management. Instead the ranks of FBI management are filled with many who were failures as street agents. Along these lines, let me ask the question, why has it suddenly become necessary for the Director to "handpick" the FBI management?) It's quite conceivable that many of the HQ personnel who so vigorously disputed Moussaoui's ability/predisposition to fly a plane into a building were simply unaware of all the various incidents and reports worldwide of Al Qaeda terrorists attempting or plotting to do so.

CONTINUED...

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,249997,00.html

[seemslikeadream]

4. grasshopper

:eyes:

[Octafish]

18. Bush swore to protect the country.

That Bush stole the election is bad enough, but the guy swore an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. So help him ... And Bush forsook that oath.

[seemslikeadream]

21. Impeachment for Violating International Law

George Bush has committed war crimes in violation of the UN Charter and the Nuremberg Charter.

Synopsis: Bush attacked Iraq, against the decisions of the United Nations, and thus violated the UN Charter. Planning and committing a war of aggression is a violation of the Nuremberg Charter. According to the US Constitution these international treaties are part of the "Supreme Law of the Land". Bush has violated the Nuremberg Charter and the UN Charter and is, therefore, subject to impeachment

UN and Nuremberg Charters part of "the supreme Law of the Land"

Article VI of the US Constitution states that:

"This Constitution and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;"

Because Bush violated International Laws that we agreed to by treaty, then he is also violating the supreme Law of the Land which is an impeachable offense. Note that it says"or which shall be made" so treaties signed after the Constitution was adopted are still covered.

Violation of The United Nations Charter

Charter 1, Article2 of the UN Charter states:

3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.

4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any manner inconsistent with Purposes of the United Nations.

Violation of the Nuremberg Charter

Principle VI of the Nuremberg Charter states:

The crimes hereinafter set out are punishable as crimes under; international law:

a. Crimes against peace:

i. Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances;

ii. Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned under (i).

Bush's invasion of Iraq is clearly a violation of the above principles.

[Octafish]

Patti Smith agrees with you, seemslikeadream!

One of the greatest citizens Michigan has produced read the Declaration of Independence in London and added:

... George Bush has suspended the rights of American
citizens to fundamental civil liberties. He has
forgotten that the United States was founded on the
proposition of the separation of Church and State. He
has combined with others to subject us to a
jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution and
unacknowledged by our laws, giving his assent to their
acts of pretended legislation. A President whose
character is thus marked by every act, which may
define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free
people.

Whether or not I fumble, or stumble over certain
words, the truth is just, the truth is here.
And we indict George Bush. Just as the revolutionaries
indicted King George III, so we indict George Bush:

For refusing to abide by international agreements for
the protection of the environment,
for abandoning Alaska to the oil companies,
for abandoning Afghanistan,
for humiliating the United Nations,
for squandering a vast federal surplus,
for giving tax breaks to the rich,
for refusing to participate in international courts,
prosecuting crimes against humanity, for flouting the
Geneva convention by sequestering captured prisoners
at Guantamano Bay,
for holding captured Iraqi's in barbaric conditions,
where neither their families or the Red Cross have
access to them,
for destroying the Baghdad International Library,
for destroying the oldest copy of the Koran,
for napalming Iraqi soldiers,
for killing innocent Iraqi citizens,
FOR WAGING A WAR BASED ON LIES! - LIES! - FUCKING
LIES!!!

http://www.xnet2.com/patti/archives/0309/msg00140.html

[seemslikeadream]

32. Doctor my eyes Octafish

Doctor, my eyes have seen the years
Through the slow parade of tears without crying
Now I want to understand
I have done all that I could
To see the evil and the good without hiding
You must help me if you can

Doctor my eyes
Tell me what is wrong
Was I unwise to leave them open for so long?

As I've wandered through this world
As each moment has unfurled
I've been waiting to awaken from this dream
People go just where they will
I never notice them until I've got this feeling
That's it's later than it seems

Doctor my eyes
Tell me what is real
I hear their cries
Just saying "It's too late for me"

Doctor my eyes
Cannot be disquised
Is this the price for having learned how not to cry?

- Jackson Browne

[lostnfound]

6. Flying binLaden family out of US on 9-11/9-12 undermined credibility, too

I don't know whether Bush knew or didn't know; but I do know that he has smashed any real hope for a credible 9-11 investigation and he keeps giving us childish explanations like "they hate us because of our freedom".

If W was a black murder suspect in Texas, this would have been way more than enough evidence to convict him.

These decades-long relationships between Daddy Bush and the Saudis need some major public scrutiny.

[Octafish]

8. Ashcroft knew. He stopped flying commercial in July 2001.

The dishonorable John Ashcan was warned off commercial aviation around the time Smirko was getting the nice briefings about bin Laden and airplanes he doesn't want the 9-11 commission to take notes about. The reason why is the BFEE knew what was coming. Here's a story from July 26, 2001:

Ashcroft Flying High

Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart.

In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.

"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.

SNIP...

"I don't do threat assessments myself and I rely on those whose responsibility it is in the law enforcement community, particularly the FBI. And I try to stay within the guidelines that they've suggested I should stay within for those purposes," Ashcroft said.

CONTINUED...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml

[Stephanie]

37. Ashcroft warned off public planes - BUSH and CHENEY split town!

They were aware of the threats and what did they do? Did they warn the airlines, put out watch lists, put NORAD on alert?

NO

They got their OWN cowardly butts out of DC and hid out in the sticks for a FULL MONTH, hoping to wait out the danger. UNPRECEDENTED month long vacations.

www.msnbc.com/news/907379.asp?0cv=KA01
The Secrets of September 11
The White House is battling to keep a report on the terror attacks secret. Does the 2004 election have anything to do with it?

April 30 — Even as White House political aides plot a 2004 campaign plan designed to capitalize on the emotions and issues raised by the September 11 terror attacks, administration officials are waging a behind-the-scenes battle to restrict public disclosure of key events relating to the attacks.

<snip>Some sources who have read the still-secret congressional report say some sections would not play quite so neatly into White House plans. One portion deals extensively with the stream of U.S. intelligence-agency reports in the summer of 2001 suggesting that Al Qaeda was planning an upcoming attack against the United States—and implicitly raises questions about how Bush and his top aides responded. One such CIA briefing, in July 2001, was particularly chilling and prophetic. It predicted that Osama bin Laden was about to launch a terrorist strike “in the coming weeks,” the congressional investigators found. The intelligence briefing went on to say: “The attack will be spectacular and designed to inflict mass casualties against U.S. facilities or interests. Attack preparations have been made. Attack will occur with little or no warning.”

The substance of that intelligence report was first disclosed at a public hearing last September by staff director Hill. But at the last minute, Hill was blocked from saying precisely who within the Bush White House got the briefing when CIA director Tenet classified the names of the recipients. (One source says the recipients of the briefing included Bush himself.) As a result, Hill was only able to say the briefing was given to “senior government officials.”


www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A15957-2001
Summer Spinning
To GOP, Vacation Boosted Bush Agenda; To Democrats, Voters See a Shirk Ethic
Aug 29, <2001>

<snip>The White House had announced that Bush would stay at his 1,600-acre ranch in Crawford from Aug. 4 through Labor Day on Sept. 3, a 31-day stretch that would have broken a modern record for a presidential vacation, held by Richard M. Nixon for a 30-day trip to San Clemente, Calif., in 1969. News reports played up the record, and a Gallup Poll found that 55 percent of respondents thought Bush's vacation was too long.

The length of the trip revived old questions about Bush's work ethic, and the poll and the news coverage caused consternation in the White House. Aides said they had planned an ambitious schedule for Bush as long ago as late June, but reporters were not told about it, even after they landed here. The White House, suddenly defensive, took every opportunity to show Bush on the go and even created a "Western White House" logo for the briefing room at Crawford Elementary School. Bush revealed that his ranch had new video conferencing equipment for keeping in touch with his national security team.

www.jacksonholenews.com/Archives/NewsArchive/2001/010815-News.html
News story - Aug. 15, 2001
A Working Vacation
Vice President Cheney plans to fish, travel during month-long valley sojourn.
By Angus M. Thuermer Jr.

Vice President Dick Cheney took time off from his month-long working vacation Monday to outline his plans for August in Jackson Hole and to reflect on "an amazing year."

Cheney, who will live at his Teton Pines home about six miles west of Jackson until Labor Day, defended his energy policy, supported a local decision to limit drilling around the Gros Ventre Wilderness, recalled a life of service in Washington and said his health problems are not affecting his ability to fish for trout on his favorite Western waters.

[Octafish]

7. Bush's Teflon seems intact...

... despite Selection 2000, Diebold BBV buddies, ENRON Energy Piracy, 9-11, Illegal Iraq War, Lying to Congress, etc. etc.

Please explain how it "undermines credibility a bit"?

From what the facts show, the House of Bush and the House of bin Laden have been in business for DECADES.

Do you think that is common knowledge?

Those who are new to the subject of James R Bath may want to check out:


Bush & Bin Laden - George W. Bush Had Ties to Billionaire bin Laden Brood

The unexplained death of Salem, Osama bin Laden's oldest brother, in 1988, brought to an abrupt end a long and intriguing relationship between President Bush and the head of the bin Laden family fortune.
 
By Roger Miller

EXCERPT...

Bath told White that he was in the CIA and that "he had been recruited by George Bush himself in 1976 when Bush was director of the agency . . . he said Bush wanted him involved with the Arabs, and to get into the aviation business."

White contends that the Saudis were using Bath and their huge financial resources to influence U.S. policy during the Reagan and Bush administrations, according to the Houston Chronicle of June 4, 1992. Such representation by Bath would require that he be registered as a foreign agent with the Department of Justice, which he was not.

SNIP...

There was also a political aspect to Salem bin Laden's financial activities, which played a role in U.S. operations in the Middle East and Central America during the 1980s, according to Public Broadcasting's Frontline report.

As head of Binladen Brothers Construction (now the Binladen Group), a company that later helped build U.S. airfields during Operation Desert Storm, bin Laden was close to King Fahd of Saudi Arabia and "a good friend of the U.S. government," a San Antonio attorney, Wayne Fagan, who represented Salem bin Laden from 1982 to 1988, told the San Antonio Express-News.

CONTINUED...

http://www.americanfreepress.net/10_07_01/Bush___Bin_Laden_-_George_W__B/bush___bin_laden_-_george_w__b.html

[smirkymonkey]

15. Here we go again....

- sigh -

[bobthedrummer]

31. What is credible about BFEE?

Personally, I feel that the neo-conservatives, PNAC, PATRIOT ACT, and a whole host of other things are part of a coup of some type. A coup would be treasonous, right?
The rallying point, as always, is our Constitution.
All power to the people.

[Dookus]

2. I'm sure thousands of Americans

have "ties" to the vast Bin Laden family. It doesn't make them guilty of treason. Knowing somebody with such ties is even less of a link.

Treason has a very specific definition per the US Constitution - it would behoove anyone making such claims to be familiar with it.

[Octafish]

5. Thanks for pointing that out. Do you know James R Bath?

Bin Laden's clan does. So does Bush. And then there's all the other connections Mr. Bath has created over the years... BCCI, for example.

Kean Insight

Bush, bin Laden, BCCI and the 9/11 Commission

by CHRIS FLOYD

EXCERPT...

One of those cut-outs was Mahfouz factotum James Bath, a partner in George W.'s early oil venture, Arbusto. Bath has admitted serving as a pass-through for secret Saudi money. Years later, when Bush's maladroit business skills were about to sink another of his companies, Harken Energy, the firm was saved by a $25 million investment from a Swiss bank--a subsidiary of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BBCI), partly owned by the beneficent Mahfouz.

What was BCCI? Only "one of the largest criminal enterprises in history," according to the U.S. Senate. What did BCCI do? "It engaged in pandemic bribery of officials in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas," says journalist Christopher Bryon, who first exposed the operation. "It laundered money on a global scale, intimidated witnesses and law officers, engaged in extortion and blackmail. It supplied the financing for illegal arms trafficking and global terrorism. It financed and facilitated income tax evasion, smuggling and prostitution." Sort of an early version of the Bush Regime, then.

BCCI's bipartisan corruption first permeated the Carter Administration, then came to full flower in the Reagan-Bush years. The CIA uncovered the bank's criminal activities in 1981--no great feat, considering how many of its own foreign "associates" were involved, including the head of Saudi intelligence, Kamal Adham, brother-in-law of King Faisal. But instead of stopping the drug-runners and terrorists, the agency decided to join them, using BCCI's secret channels to finance "black ops" all over the world.

When a few prosecutors finally began targeting BCCI's operations in the late Eighties, President George Herbert Walker Bush boldly moved in with a federal probe directed by Justice Department investigator Robert Mueller. The U.S. Senate later found that the probe had been unaccountably "botched"--witnesses went missing, CIA records got "lost," all sorts of bad luck. Lower-ranking prosecutors told of heavy pressure from on high to "lay off." Most of the big BCCI players went unpunished or, like Mahfouz, got off with wrist-slap fines and sanctions. Mueller, of course, wound up as head of the FBI, appointed to the post in July 2001--by George W. Bush.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd01312003.html

[oasis]

19. Keep on posting the facts Octafish, and justice will find a way to Bush's

doorstep. He doesn't have to be in the White House for justice to find him.

There will be no presidential pardon for this rotten-to-the-core criminal.

[Octafish]

20. Thanks, oasis! Hey, even 'pukes are wising up to the BFEE.

Here's what bucko Kevin Phillips has to say about the Bushes acting like Ian Fleming's nightmare vision for Willie Sutton going where the money is...

Bush's family long ago entangled themselves in Middle East dealings

By Kevin Phillips
19-01-2004

EXCERPT...

Between now and the November election, it's crucial that Americans come to understand how four generations of the current president's family have embroiled the United States in the Middle East through CIA connections, arms shipments, rogue banks, inherited war policies and personal financial links.

As early as 1964, George H.W. Bush, running for the US Senate from Texas, was labelled by incumbent Democrat Ralph Yarborough as a hireling of an Arab state, for whom Bush's company drilled offshore oil wells.

Over the four decades since then, the ever-reaching Bushes have emerged as the first US political clan to thoroughly entangle themselves with Middle Eastern leaders and oil money. The family even has links to the bin Ladens - although not to family black sheep Osama bin Laden - going back to the 1970s.

How these unusual relationships helped bring about 9/11 and then distorted the US response to "Islamic" terrorism requires thinking of the Bush family as a dynasty. The two Bush presidencies are inextricably linked by that dynasty.

CONTINUED...

http://www.gulf-news.com/Articles/Opinion.asp?ArticleID=108387

[frank frankly]

36. kick ass octafish

you are wonderful

[seemslikeadream]

10. High Treason against the people of the United States

1. George W. Bush was not elected lawfully to the office of the presidency, having been put in place by the Supreme Court in a matter over which they had no authority.

2. George W. Bush did knowingly and illegally prevent the action of the FBI in the prevention of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

3. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney did conspire with Oil Industry Companies to commit fraud and price fixing against the people of California.

4. George W. Bush's familial in involvement and personal interest in BCCI and the Carlyle Group amount to High Treason against the People of the United States of America for supporting a group which has supported terrorism against the United States.

5. George W. Bush's government has willfully and knowingly denied the Constitutionally Guaranteed Rights of American Citizen Jose Padilla by denying him due process of law and holding him without cause.

6. George W. Bush's government has willfully and knowingly started a war with two nations without cause, killing thousands of people and hundreds of Americans with primarily his own Economic Interests as motivation, constituting high treason against America.

[Karenina]

12. Ah, the tragic failure

of the American educational system! :cry: A :kick: for those who were fortunate enough to learn to read and think critically... :freak:

[smirkymonkey]

16. You left out the Plame leak.....

can't let that one slip by!

[NoMoreRedInk]

11. If you work Kevin Bacon into your chain of influence, you'll..

have this sucker completely figured out.

Bush is going down because of jobs.

[Octafish]

13. Worried about the Secret Conspiracies Running the World???

For 57 times today, I've thought, "I like how you think," NoMoreRedInk. -- Octafish

Roots of Conspiracism
Worried about the Secret Conspiracies Running the World???

Hidden Mysteries Hogwash Debunker #3
adapted from the forthcoming

Too Close for Comfort:
Right Wing Populism, Scapegoating, and Conspiracism

by Chip Berlet & Matthew N. Lyons

Conspiracism sees secret plots by tiny cabals of evildoers as the major motor powering important historical events; makes irrational leaps of logic in analyzing factual evidence to assert connections that are fallacious; and blames social conflicts on scapegoats.

Although the specific allegations about the plots and plans by the alleged conspirators frequently are complex and Byzantine, the ultimate model is still simple: the good people must expose and stop the bad people, and then conflict will end and grievances will be resolved. Conspiracism is thus an action-oriented worldview which holds out to believers the possibility of change. As Kathleen M. Blee has observed through interviews with women in racist groups, "Conspiracy theories not only teach that the world is divided into an empowered "them" and a less powerful "us" but also suggest a strategy by which the "us" (ordinary people, the non-conspirators) can challenge and even usurp the authority of the currently-powerful." Thus conspiracist scapegoating fills a need for explanations among the adherents by providing a simple model of good versus evil in which the victory over evil is at least possible.

Just like in other forms of scapegoating, conspiracists sometimes target people who in fact have significant power and culpability in a given conflict--Wall Street powerbrokers, bankers, corporate magnates, politicians, government officials--but conspiracists portray these forces in caricature that obscures a rational assessment of their wrongdoing. It is not the individual people who have the power, but the roles they occupy in social, political, and economic institutions.

Scapegoating is not only about who is targeted but also about who is not targeted, and what systems and structures are not being challenged by focusing on the scapegoat. The Federal Reserve is a powerful institution that has made many decisions to benefit the wealthy and keep unemployment high. In any analysis of the Fed it is important to see how the Fed is presented and what is left out. Is it analyzed as a cabal of Jewish bankers or a significant institution of modern corporate capitalism with bipartisan support? No single power bloc, company, family, or individual in a complex modern society wields absolute control, even though there are always systems of control. Wall Street stock brokers are not outsiders deforming an otherwise happy system. As Holly Sklar argues, "the government is manipulated by various elites, often behind the scenes, but these elites are not a tiny secret cabal with omniscience and omnipotence." There is no secret team...the elites that exist are anything but secret. The government is not an alien force superimposed over an otherwise freedom loving and equitable society.

More on Conspiracism

http://www.publiceye.org/glossary/consp_gl.html

[PaDUer]

14. WHEN? is the question...

WHEN is someone going to put this into motion?

[Octafish]

17. Perhaps when enough People demand answers.

The only way to get people to pick up the phone, type out a letter or pound out an email is when they have the mind to. What's give them the mind? The Truth.

[Taeger]

22. ELECTION !!!!

The election is in 9 months. We can impeach him at the ballot box.

One this is FOR CERTAIN. A REPUBLICAN CONGRESS IS NOT GOING TO IMPEACH THEIR OWN PRESIDENT UNLESS HE KILLS SOMEONE ON LIVE TV!!!!! Even then, it would be close ;-)

So drop the whole "Impeach ****" bumper sticker campaign. It's tired and old.

[Octafish]

24. So what if it's "tired and old?" Bush is a CROOK!

The more people who KNOW that, the more people will VOTE for the DEMOCRAT.

BTW: I appreciate the mix in Congress. It's a result of Mr. Clinton's good press, aided and abetted by the likes of Limbaugh, Drudge and Murdoch, IMHO.

[knight_of_the_star]

23. He won't get impeached

But he probably will be on trial for the largest indictment in US jurisprudence history by 2006... and that's BEFORE he gets shipped off to The Hague.

[Octafish]

25. Only the "largest indictment" can rid us of the BFEE cancer.

Nixon's cancer on the presidency (as John Dean called it) seems now like a hangnail compared to the malignancy wrought by Nixon's descendants (perfect word). I agree with what you're saying knight_of_the_star wholeheartedly. To list the lawlessness of the Bush Organized Crime Family would strain PROMIS.

Pocket History of BFEE

The Bush Family Crime-Line

Representing a criminal class unlike anything the world has ever seen are the Bushes.

Here’s the short history of WHAT WE KNOW:

Bay of Pigs — Bush the Oilman and his Cuban Friends

Dallas — DeMohrenschildt the Oilman is Friends with both Lee Harvey Oswald and George Bush

Vietnam
Drug War Profiteers
Watergate
October Surprise
Rev Moon Enabler/Enabled
Nugan Hand Bank
INSLAW/Promis
Iraq-gate / Banca Nazionale del Lavoro arms
BCCI International Money Laundering for Terrorists & Intelligence Community
Savings & Loan scandal and bailout (Silverado for Neil)
Iran-contra Guns/Drugs/Martial Law
Gulf War I Glaspie Gives Go-Ahead
Selection 2000 Shreds US Constitution
ENRON Energy Piracy
9-11 Criminal Negligence, at best; Treason, most likely
Gulf War II Faked WMD Intel

The curriculum vitae of the Bush Organized Crime Family reads like a febrile dream of an Ian Fleming master villain. One common tentacle passes through all the above conspiracies — The Octopus that is the Bush Crime Family & Evil Empire is in the service a Fascistic and Satanic Secret Ruling Elite. Like Dim Son said, “Either you are with us, or you are against us.”

When he puts it that way, it really is that easy to decide. If we can't indict 'em, rat 'em out. When we get an honest Attorney General, we can prosecute. The man or woman will be very, very busy.

[neebob]

26. As much as I would like

to see President Scumbag - and that's the only way I can stand to call him President - get in lots and lots of trouble, I keep wondering why people think impeaching him is a good idea. He'd either dig in his heels and refuse to leave office, or Dastardly Dick would take his place. Would that be a good thing? I don't think so.

All I can say is I hope all the people who voted for his shameless lying ass and are complaining about him now are proud of themselves.

[Octafish]

29. Good observations. The thing the BFEE fears most is the truth.

They own Congress. They own the courts.

What don't they own? The People.

[Hammie]

27. Say What?

Texans in the oil business? Say it aint so!

[Octafish]

28. BFEE goes where the money is.

The Bush Organized Crime Family, like Willie Sutton the bank robber, goes where the money is. In today's world, the richest nations have "our oil underneath their sand," as Bush seems to think.

The Bush clan is connected directly to bin Laden through James R Bath, Bush's TANG buddy who went on to handle bin Laden family's US business dealings. When the media finally start examining the documents, they'll tie the AwOL story to 9-11. That shows Bush knew bin Laden from way back. And he didn't tell and he didn't stop 9-11. Among other things, that's treason.

[Jose Diablo]

33. As you know Octafish the roots of BFEE

go deep into the past. The source of the current 'organization' has roots to slave traders, opium, arms merchants selling arms to both sides in conflicts, causing the civil war, the tories in the american revolution. These people are very ancient enemies of democracy. The American aristocracy.

The people pass on, but the greed and corruption live-on. Its like an inter-generational disease.

And they act like they are so superior. Just trash, rich trash is what they are.

[WarNoMore]

34. Ir's been my thought for quite a while

that this goes back to the founding of our country. As one who's family has been here since 1635, (and whose family has served in almost every military action we've been involved in) it's almost a deja vu feeling. The question is-- who will bell the cat?

[Jose Diablo]

35. The question is-- who will bell the cat?

Ask Clausewitz? I think thats how his name is spelled. War is an extension of diplomacy. I even thought that was true until this war and looking into the background on the Internet.

Now I see war and the hidden history for what it really is. I used to be idealistic in my youth and thought this world could really be changed for the better.

Remembering the graduation speech from school how the future was all up to us young people. I think the elders new it was hopeless, yet somehow important to try.

It is hard to be optimistic about the future.

But then again, to just give-up is not right either. Somehow I think its like a continuous battle, that is never 'won'. Each side battles for a few feet, then is beat back.

Was it Dante's Inferno that described two screaming and fighting groups of souls that are trying to push a diamond boulder between them. Each side trying to push the boulder across some imaginary goal line. Maybe this is hell right here.

Anyway, I am not ready to give-up yet. And no, I don't have any perfect solutions either.

[Octafish]

38. You understand.

Sniff. You caused a tear to well up, JellyBean1! It's a pleasure to cross paths with someone who sees these monsters for what they are. We cannot let them go, stumbling on to wreck vengeance on the next innocents. Down with the BFEE!

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