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Product of Evolution Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 06:08 PM
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Questions about Pim Fortuyn...
1. Was he gay?

2. Did he become the Dutch PM by convincing the tolerant Dutch that Arab immigrants would spread homophobia to the Netherlands?
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 06:27 PM
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1. Pimpf
1. Yes
2. No, but he might have made statements against muslims like this. What I see as a reason is that in many parts of Europe, there are kind of new alliances. The empty newspeech of neoliberalism is seeking new allies.
The kind of minority-issues that were an important part of the left movements during the 60s are separated from their progressive context as long as they don't touch social issues.
Have a gay righwing neoliberal asshole as a mayor too, here in Hamburg, Germany, but even he is much smarter than this racist narcistic idiot Fortuyn. There are people, I miss more:-)
Dirk
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 06:36 PM
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2. Well
1. Yes.

2. No, because he was never elected Dutch PM. But yes, much of his anti-immigrant stance was based on a very legitimate criticism of traditional Islam for being anti-woman and homophobic, among others. Fortuyn was intellectually honest, something that's exceedingly rare among xenophobes.
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