Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Should Morbid Obesity be classed a disablity /protected by EEO?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:22 PM
Original message
Poll question: Should Morbid Obesity be classed a disablity /protected by EEO?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Asteroid Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:25 PM
Response to Original message
1. I would say yes it is a disability
But I'm not sure it should be protected by EEOC.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Hiya Asteroid !! Welcome to Du
:hi: :hi: :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Asteroid Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Thank you! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:36 PM
Response to Original message
4. Yes, probably... Although I'd be more concerned with it being classed
the serious medical condition that it is, so that insurance, medicare/medicaid would be required to cover bariatric medical treatment....

I'd also like to see steps taken to reward those who lose weight to achieve and maintain normal BMI (e.g., with a decrease in their health insurance policy premiums or partial coverage of health club memberships)-- something that really could be done through large employer insurance programs.

We need to start treating the obesity epidemic as the serious threat to public health that it is, rather than using it as an excuse to discriminate against the individual.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Kick
:kick:


:yourock:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. I wouldn't worry about insurers
I'd be more concerned that classifying obesity so broadly would lead to it being a way to deny coverage. The case for a preexisting, uninsurable condition would be pretty easy to make. :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:52 PM
Response to Original message
7. Absolutely
<>
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:02 PM
Response to Original message
8. I voted "no" for the same reason I don't think alcoholism is a "disease"
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 09:03 PM by MercutioATC
...it's a lifestyle choice.

Before I get flamed, I've had plenty of family members drink themselves to death and I'm sympathetic to what alcoholics go through. I still don't believe in giving them protected status.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Hey, I said what I thought. Last I checked, that was allowed.
As I said, I'm not minimizing the difficulties alcoholism poses and I have first-hand experience with alcoholics. Sorry, I still consider it a choice in the same way I consider nicotine addiction a choice. I'm all for programs to help people dealing with these issues, I just don't feel they warrant protected status.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. I have alcoholics and obesity in my family
no way is it a choice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:04 PM
Response to Original message
9. No, unless it is literally all the result of a medical condition
which I'm sure is rare.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. how about the result of a psychological or emotional condition
which I'm sure is NOT rare.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:08 AM
Response to Reply #14
18. Grey area, and I believe the answer is still "no"
A line has to be drawn somewhere. Too many psychological/emotional are subjective an somewhat arbitrary. Too often speculation fills the gaps left by science in th erealm of psychology.

Moreover, one of the grain of truth around which the Busheviks wrap their odious lies is the very real fact that there is a penchant on the Left to reduce personal responsibility for things like that.

Now, I am not agreeing with Bushevik Talking Points, but I am saying, just saying that their psychoengineered lies have a grain of truth at their core (helps to make the lies more easily swallowable).

And this is one of them. So, in conclusion Skittles, though we will probably disagree, my answer is "no".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:39 PM
Response to Original message
13. Yes and..
treatment for the condition should be readily available. It is almost impossible for very obese persons to lose that weight afterwards; it takes some monumental efforts to get that person back to a safe condition; not all persons have at their disposal the type of resources to do what is necessary to get the weight off. Stomach jobs, dieticians, gyms, medicines etc. Morbid obesity is extremely dangerous to the individual--they need HELP not "stoning".

Ahem..what is EEO?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. EEO="Equal Employment Opportunity"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 02:25 AM
Response to Reply #15
16. Thanks on EEO.. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 02:49 AM
Response to Original message
17. Can't vote
What EEO? There is no EEO in this country right now. It's acceptable to discriminate in Bush's America.

I could use some EEO.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 06:24 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC