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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 04:15 AM
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Noonan: Poppy, Bar and George slept in the same bed in Midland
Well, we've always had suspicions about the Oedipal issues George has with his dad. Now comes this from Peggy Noonan.

"She (Bar) spoke to me once with great nostalgia of her early days in Texas, when she and her husband and young George slept in the same bed in an apartment in Midland."

According to the Midland Chamber of Commerce, the Bushes arrived in Midland when George was a toddler. So how old was he when he stopped sleeping with Mommy and Daddy? (Dad was gone a lot, remember. The perfect setup for Oedipal trouble.)

Cute little George.

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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 04:19 AM
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1. Non issue
In my opinion, this is just BS. Look at different cultures, where it's absolutely normal for families/relatives to share a common bed or sleeping place.


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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 07:18 AM
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7. Someone pointed out to me once
Edited on Thu Feb-19-04 07:27 AM by DoYouEverWonder
that western man is the only primate that doesn't sleep with their children.

Could you imagine how screwed up W would be if he didn't get even that small amount of love and attention from his parents? Then again his mother probably pumeled him, everytime he got in the bed.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 04:20 AM
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2. Oh my.
Now why would anyone believe this story of mattress deprivation is any truer than any other just plain folks Bush lies?

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 04:22 AM
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3. I wonder why she didn't reminice about how he didn't quit breast feeding
until he was twelve. :)

Another cultural fixation in some places.
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buckeye1 Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 04:38 AM
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4. Where is the link.
What a silly post.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 04:51 AM
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5. Mommie dearest. Read this psych.'s ananysis of W. Barb is an apt name.
Edited on Thu Feb-19-04 04:54 AM by JohnOneillsMemory
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1033904,00.html

I never miss a chance to link to this amazing psychological analysis of W's personality by a clinical psychologist who interviewed his family, friends, and co-workers.

Living in the big shadow of an absentee superstar father and being hit and tormented by the glacier with claws called Barb created what's called an authoritarian personality in the boy.

Authoritarianism was studied after WWII to research the causes of fascism. What a surprise.

Most fundamentalist Christians (nearly half the US population) have authoritarian personalities. Explains why fascism grows so well here.
And why Europeans fear and revile us. They know that shit when they see it.

Read it and weep for this poor bastard and the rest of us.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 06:53 AM
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6. Cheap shot...
Edited on Thu Feb-19-04 06:54 AM by JDWalley
FWIW, it's only been recently that our 5-year-old daughter has stopped making a regular practice of crawling into our bed in the middle of the night. From other parents I've talked to, it isn't exactly a rare phenomenon. (Although it did mean that I had to abandon my previous practice of sleeping au naturel... ;-) )

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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 07:45 AM
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8. In the 1940's that wasn't that unusual.
The Bush family helped Poppy only by giving him the contacts. But they required him to make his own money as they believed that it built character. So in the early years, they really did live a middle class life for a while.

But of course, with the contacts already in place, he had no trouble getting capital for his new oil company, and quickly made lots of money.

Sort of like starting in the batter' box, being walked all the way around, and claiming you hit a home run. Yeah, they did start in the batter's box, but that's about it.

As for small children getting in bed with their parents, - in my early childhood we didn't have an extra bed for me and I slept with my parents. Nothing sexual about it, and it does help the child to have a nurtured feeling of being loved and protected by his parents.
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