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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:20 AM Original message |
Do you (still) believe the 2000 election was 'stolen'? |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. stolen, and not forgotten -eom- |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. Why must there be one reason? |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. If there is 'equal' blame... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
25. that is an important distinction |
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Vogon_Glory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Excellent Points |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I don't recall how many votes Nader got, but some 55,000 wrongfully |
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DFLer4edu (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 01:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
68. Nader took 97,000 Harris took 91,000 |
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DFLer4edu (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 01:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
67. I'm with you |
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DennisReveni (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #67 |
95. Why is Nader to blame? |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 12:48 AM Response to Reply #67 |
104. I feel exactly the opposite |
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zanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. I think it should return as an election year issue... |
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illini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
4. Hell freaking ya it was stolen. |
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glarius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
6. Isn't it a fact that without Nader in 2000 Gore would have won despite the |
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Toby109 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Yup |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. So? If Jeb and Kathie played fricking fair... that'd be 75000 more votes. |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:08 AM Response to Reply #14 |
26. It's disingenous to suggest 'only' 97,000 votes were stolen... |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. We're in deep trouble... |
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LifeDuringWartime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 11:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
63. its troubling, alright |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
89. Nope. |
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mhr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks Q For Reminding All About Complexity And Politics |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
9. there was a combination of factors |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. But what Nader was doing was legal... |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. no, they are two different issues |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
91. I don't know that they are totally different... |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
10. There is little evidence to support the theory of a causal relationship |
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nostamj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
11. stolen before a vote was cast |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Good point...and should it matter to us... |
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sattahipdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:54 AM Original message |
Move on....LMAO |
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nomatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
65. Your post is interesting |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
17. The "Nader only" crowd are nuts, not worth real time and discussion |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
18. Stolen and still buried |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
20. Yeah, I'm still angry. and I'm angry that it will happen again. |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. More Americans need to learn about the details... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #21 |
46. I made a tape of "Unprecedented" and "Counting on Democracy" |
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Blue Gardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
22. Greg Palast has the proof |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Also watch 'Unprecedented'... |
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cosmicdot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. yes, to both |
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greatauntoftriplets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
23. Yes, I still believe the election was stolen. |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Do you get the impression... |
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greatauntoftriplets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Yes, to some extent... |
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cosmicdot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
27. seems whenever someone tries to focus on the 2000 election crimes |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Focus: RWingers maintained their focus... |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
31. the theft of the 2000 election and the NeoCon Coup of December 2000... |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I was responding to... |
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nostamj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:33 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. part of our problem, and THEIR strategy... |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. My 83-year-old Dad could tell you things about the 2000 NeoCon Coup... |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 11:27 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. You're using the word 'stupid'...not me... |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 01:49 AM Response to Reply #45 |
70. No, I'm not going to stop it "immediately"...you started this thread... |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
86. Don't sweat it, MLD |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
36. Vote fraud did not start in 2000 election |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Yes...but when will it end? |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Nixon was busy cutting deals with his friends in the mob, too... |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Yes, it is true |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 01:57 AM Response to Reply #43 |
71. JFK was killed in Dealey Plaza, not Daley Plaza... |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
60. But JFK won even without Illinois |
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peekaloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
37. Big Dick in Tampa last night gearing up for 2004 |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Dick is not our VP... |
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scarface2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
41. they stole 2000... |
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BillZBubb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
44. Absolutely! |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
47. OK... |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I liked the Corvair |
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dbt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
48. DAMN RIGHT it was stolen! |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
50. Yes, I believe there was a coup of some type, the election was stolen |
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Charlls (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
51. now, this is exactly the kind of reasons about democracy self-phagocytism |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
52. I believe even more now than in 2K that the election was stolen. |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
53. It is true that there were dozens of factors that contributed |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
54. considering the voter roll purges |
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osaMABUSh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
55. Of course, why wouldn't I? We need to remind everyone of it |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
56. Somewhat misleading |
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bravejet69 (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
57. No doubt in my mind the election was stolen |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Hi bravejet69!! |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
59. yep |
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mithnanthy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
79. Yes |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
61. Why blame Nader voters? Why not blame shrub voters? Or Buchanen? |
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kaitykaity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
62. Yeah it was close enough to steal because |
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marigold20 (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
64. I'll never believe anything else. |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
66. Why don't Kerry or Edwards bring this up everytime |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. Because it doesn't win them one single vote |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. How does the truth scare voters away? |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Is that a serious question? |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 05:13 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Yes, |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Sir or Madam, logic is nowhere to be found |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. let's try this- - I ask why is not the theft of an election a major issue |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 12:54 AM Response to Reply #92 |
105. crickets chirping , very softly...... |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:09 AM Response to Reply #92 |
107. The theft of the 2000 Election is not a good campaign issue |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 09:24 AM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Thank you for your responses. Something tells me that |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 09:58 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. People have already made up their minds |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
69. Hell yes it was stolen. |
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mountainvue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
72. Yes. |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
73. Stolen? |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
74. Absolutely... |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
75. Thank you. I'm no big Nader fan, but this has gotten ridiculous! |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
76. Stolen - and nader was a big factor in the close states. |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
77. Nothing Would Convince Me It Wasn't |
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bushwakker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
78. Nader allowed them to steal it |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
80. No matter how the Republicans steal the vote, |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
87. Yes. |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
88. 38% of the population thinks Bush* stole the election |
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methinks2 (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
90. Of course |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 07:17 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Many Americans 'know' about Iran/Contra... |
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DennisReveni (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
94. Don't forget the gays |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
96. Yes. |
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Robin Hood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
97. Need link to the 300,000 dems who voted for bush, furthermore. |
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Robin Hood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 10:39 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Still waiting for them hard facts. |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
98. YES (nt) |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
99. Hey, YOU are the omniscient one here! You tell me! |
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jor_mama (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
101. It's kind of like blaming one play in a one-point game |
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texasmom (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
102. I awoke from a deep sleep that November-December |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
103. Hell Yes |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
106. without new evidence or better analysis, yes |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:32 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Which witch burning... |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:39 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. for the sake of discussion ... |
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