Cops called on topless 3-year-old girl at pool

[booksenkatz]

http://www.freep.com/news/locway/swim2_20030802.htm

"It may be all right for girls to bathe topless in pools in, say, Brazil, but don't try going topless at a water park in Detroit -- even if you're only 3 years old.

Karima Sorel and her daughter Suhayla Smith, 3, learned that the hard way Wednesday when security guards at Wayne County's Chandler Park Family Aquatic Park called police on Sorel because she allowed her daughter to play in the pool topless...."

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"Topless toddlers apparently can spark lust in adults who are sexually attracted to children -- at least that's what Sorel said the park's security guards repeatedly told her during the standoff."

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"Hmmmm, Detroit is a terrorist hotbed and Sorel sounds like an Al-Qaeda name. Glad to see our men were on 'top' of this situation." ~ John Ashcroft

[scarletlib]

1. Pitiful isn't it

Pre-adolescent boys and girls are physically built the same above the waist until puberty sets it. That is you really cannot tell the difference by just looking at the chest area. In addition they have the same approximate builds and strenth. The only distinquishing difference at that age is in the genitalia. My god what a nation of prurient prudes we are.

[FlaGranny]

2. Must be the hairdo that causes a problem.

Or maybe a frill on the suit bottom. But certainly NOT the chest. The child's hair or the bathing suit are the only ways anyone could tell if that child was a boy or a girl. It says something about the people who complained, I guess - they are the ones who have the real problem and if I were them I wouldn't want my feelings known to the world.

[scarletlib]

4. Hey Flagranny

I'm a granny and live in florida too. Although my original home is tennessee and my heart will always be there.

[FlaGranny]

8. Hi Scarlet

My original home is NJ, but my heart is no longer there much. :-) I miss springtime and a few family members, but that's about all. How about the absolutely gorgeous weather we had here ALL winter?

[blondeatlast]

3. Sheesh--the perverts are the problem, not the little girl.

If he could tell she was a GIRL, that's the problem right there . . .

On edit: what an unfortunatley named website!

[SoCalDem]

6. The Detroit Free Press has been "freep" a lot longer

that the "other" ones.. maybe they should sue for disparaging their name :evilgrin:

[jody]

7. Sounds like you believe "people kill people, not guns kill people"

"Ban perverts not bathing suit tops" and "ban criminals not guns". :hi:


AND DAMM PROUD OF IT!

[ClassWarrior]

10. You're right...

Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people.

[Bandit]

14. Guns don't kill people ~ Bullets kill people

:shrug: If this is a real Ashcroft quote it should be published.

"Hmmmm, Detroit is a terrorist hotbed and Sorel sounds like an Al-Qaeda name. Glad to see our men were on 'top' of this situation." ~ John Ashcroft

[booksenkatz]

19. Heavens, no

That was me being sarcastic. Kinda scary, though, when it's hard to tell the diff between sarcasm and a real quote from that creepy attorney general we have.

[Robb]

5. Exactly!

I mean haven't we established by now that a sexual assault victim's clothing (or lack thereof) can't be used as an excuse by a predator?

The security guards' responsibility is to protect said kids, NOT tell them they can't wear purple because their studies show pervs liked Donny Osmond. :grr:

[Rose Siding]

9. Stupid "blame the victim" mentality

It is analogous to banning short skirts to prevent rape. The perv goes after kids because they are KIDS. I suppose the security guard had stats on the kind of attire worn by most molested children? :eyes:

[JohnyCanuck]

11. You know if you go to a beach in Europe during the summer

You will probably find quite a few 3 to 5 year olds completely in the alltogether (not to mention a few adults as well). My mom and dad became friends about 10 years ago with a Swedish couple who had a 3 year old daughter. The child never wore a bathing suit at the beach until she was about 12. They would sometimes send family holiday snaps and the daughter more often than not was in the buff. My Mom would say I kept wondering how old she would be before she wore a bathing suit.

[GCP]

13. How very true

When I first came over to this country from the UK, my little guy was just over 2 years old and he'd never worn a swim suit except at the local indoor swimming pool.

When I took him to the local swim hole over here, I was looked on askance as if I was some trailer-park trash or something just because he preferred to be in the buff. The sad thing was, the kids were as bad as the parents - already indoctrinated by 4 or 5 yrs old.

"Old " Europe is so much more relaxed and free-thinking than the US.

[dolo amber]

12. CHRIST on a bike!!!!

My 3 yr old goes topless in her backyard wading pool all the time...my midget neighbor (yes, MIDGET; if she were a decent human being I would use the PC term, but as she is a surly, self-righteous neo-con BITCH, I feel free to use the term that most offends her) who, incidentally is childless, feels the need to inform me repeatedly that *parenting magazines say that it's inappropriate for FEMALE children to go topless, even at that age*...this just PISSES me off to no living end. Aside from the fact that she has ZERO business advising me on parenting issues, it seems to be the only time she sticks her overly large head out the door to *socialize* with me. And I've heard from neighbors that she's made comments to others about it, while not outright saying I'm a bad mother, shaking her head and sighing when she discusses it. WTF is wrong with people?!?! My God, next they'll be trying to mandate in-vitro clothing. Fucking HELL!
:grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke:

[FlaGranny]

16. My daughter-in-law tells

me she has gotten comments from total strangers about not putting anything but a diaper on her little boys (this in Florida in the summer). Makes you wonder what runs through their minds, doesn't it. Such a fear of skin is not natural.

[Monte Carlo]

15. Let's just hand the ENTIRE world over to the pedophiles, too.

This is the point I think Michael Moore was trying to emphasize in Bowling for Columbine more than any other; Americans have responded to the dangers of everyday life by with hysteria, which ends up feeding into the original dangers. Our fear of being shot by other people leads us to shoot more other people. It is a vicious circle.

Not letting a 3-year old girl swim around nude out of fear of pedophiles is ignoring all proportion. We cannot let remote worst-case scenarios run our lives.

[DFLforever]

17. The aroma of fascism?

Read Thomas Mann's "Death in Venice" where Italians relaxing on a beach in the early days of Mussolini's reign get all upset and disapproving when they see a very young boy playing naked in the water.

[arcane1]

18. "What I'm not understanding is the sexualization of a 3-year-old,"

Sorel said...
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IMHO, putting a bikini top on a 3-year-old is even more sexualizing! Maybe a matching thong will make her seem even less sexualized?

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get a LIFE, people (not you guys, lol)