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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 07:59 PM
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Maxine Waters says Haiti was part of regime change policy...
Venezuela and Cuba next.

Bush has decided to clean out hemisphere.

US returning refuges to hands of death squads.


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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:02 PM
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1. I don't think Cuba is next.
For two important reasons:

1) No oil in Cuba.

2) Castro is so old he's bound to die of natural causes eventually! Why bother invading now?
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:06 PM
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3. Would Bush win the election if he invades Cuba and wins?
How would people take a policy of military offense?
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 09:58 PM
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15. are you kidding??
they are DYING to snap up cuba's prime real estate!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:09 PM
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4. Do you think the Rethugs would like to build some nice casinos there...
...to replace the ones that Castro shut down in 1959? Cheap labor. No unions.

Don

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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:12 PM
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5. Sun City West. n/t
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:56 PM
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13. Open some nice
teenage cat houses for Neil and his ilk.

180
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 10:50 PM
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17. The mafia back in town.
The Cuban people wouldn't profit. Just the Bush gang. Children would be denied good health and education.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:18 PM
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6. Cuba does have oil
Off shore exploration is indicating lots of pretty oil in Cuban waters.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 10:53 PM
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18. Too bad.
Edited on Sun Feb-29-04 10:57 PM by mac2
How long will the world allow this man to invade other counrties? Is this type of aggression not putting us in danger?

Bush is going for it all before he's out of office. His brother and the Americas all set up and ready to go in 2005. They've plunded all we have for now.

I'm afraid, they'll do as much as they can get away with until we put them out of power.

They should be tried under RICO and the World Court. Everyone deserves a trial even though he wants to prevent it for others.

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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:36 PM
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8. I believe Castro has a younger brother
seven years younger, who would likely succeed him.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:36 PM
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10. there is oil in Cuba
of low quality, but there is the possibility of locating better quality oil -- just requires financing. And Haliburton wants it

http://havanajournal.com/business_comments/P1089_0_4_0

Gulf of Mexico oil, Cuba's billion-dollar bet
By Anthony Boadle | Reuters

HAVANA - When one of the world's largest deep-sea drilling rigs parks off Cuba next March, the island's Communist government will be betting on an oil bonanza to shore up its cash-strapped revolution.

Oil experts say it's a long shot and Cuba would have to discover a major deposit of light crude to make it commercially viable to tap a deep water field in the Gulf of Mexico at a cost of more than $1 billion.

But multinational oil corporations, eager for virgin fields to exploit, will be watching closely as Spain's Repsol-YPF SA puts the Norwegian-owned Eirik Raude rig to work at $195,000 a day drilling for oil in water more than a mile deep. Cuba's current small oil output is drilled from onshore rigs in coastal deposits to the east of Havana.

.......





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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:45 PM
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11. No fucking way..The US has been trying to overthrow Castro for 46 years...
Edited on Sun Feb-29-04 08:54 PM by Zinfandel
Castro will be celebrating his 50 year anniversary as Cuba's socialist leader and Bush will be long gone.

Even Bush, Cheney and Dumsfeld are not stupid enough to just invade Cuba without any provacation...Castro know this, that's why he'll be in power until he dies, probably in his 90's, where's he at now...late 70's?

Fuck the Cuban right-wing greedy fucks in Florida, they are all dying off anyway.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:03 PM
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2. Yes, because the U.S. KKKares about the W. Indies
.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:30 PM
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7. Cuba would be a blood bath
for both sides. the Cuban army during their African wars were proven to be excellent soldiers. for the us army to attack Cuba would be a military and political disaster. the Europeans ,Russians, South Americans would all lose significant investments and their retaliation would be damaging to the us economy...it`s a no win for either side but that won`t stop bush
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:56 PM
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14. It would be very bad.
It would take full out assaults. And don't be suprosed if Castro has a few long range missles in his pocket for Miami.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:36 PM
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9. She just said that the State department won't tell her a thing...
She's head of the Haiti Task Force in Congress.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 08:50 PM
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12. That was Barbara Lee,
not Maxine Waters, who was just on.

But the administration has stonewalled the entire Congressional Black Caucus.

They will have a hearing next Wednesday on Haiti. Lee said she had questioned Powell in writing and has heard nothing back. Also, they've been unable to get any information from the administration all weekend.

It will be interesting to see who from the State Dept. shows up for the hearing...Lee sounded not too confident that Powell himself would show up.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 10:47 PM
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16. Black Caucus vs Powell
That should be an interesting encounter.
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I AM SPARTACUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 10:59 PM
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20. the Black Caucus has been foisted off on Powell & Rice for the entire
reign of the misunderestimadministration, with the exception of a meeting last week with Smirko - about Haiti. The Caucus had to INSIST - while at the White House - to meet with the Resident.

I'm guessing that they will feel, what? a bit lied to??? ya think? I wonder if they'll be happy meeting with Powell and/or Rice yet again...
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 10:54 PM
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19. It's a dictatorship.
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