Daniel Ellsberg: "Iraq another Vietnam"

[Mari333]

The Pentagon insider-turned-Bay Area activist says the parallels between Vietnam and Iraq are tragic and inescapable. Why, he asks, have our leaders failed to learn from the mistakes of 40 years ago?.

A major factor that kept us in Vietnam and that's keeping us in Iraq," says Ellsberg, "is the unwillingness by those in power to admit they made a mistake. This would be admitting that lives were wasted and it would look like they're accepting defeat. That thinking was enough to keep Vietnam going year after year. In Iraq, we would be giving up if we withdraw troops . . . but we should give up. It's not for President Bush or any other American to determine the internal policies of Iraq, and prolonging the occupation does nothing to solve Iraq's problems."










http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/02/29/CMG3R50LHE5.DTL

[izzie]

1. What can I say I think so like this man.

Hitler also used the same thing. If one of his men were killed he killed 10 locals and it worked the same. One place Hitler killed every man, women and child in the town as a big wig had been killed. If we had half the Middle East that did not like us now we have, I bet. 95%.I do not know what Bush did at Yale but he sure did not read History.

[ShaneGR]

2. Iraq isn't another Vietnam

Iraq is Iraq. There is no comparison. Different regions, cultures, dangers, non-dangers, etc.

[NewJeffCT]

3. True

It is different right now, but if full scale civil war erupts in Iraq... then, we might get more similarities.

[Mari333]

4. Ellsberg hits the nail on the head

and over 600 soldiers are dead, thousands and thousands wounded, thousands and thousands of dead civilians in a war based on LIES and fake intelligence created from thin air as a reason to go in...Gulf of Tonkin lies and fake CIA intelligence lies for both wars...both just corporate wars to line the pockets of the greedy bastards who started them..total horseshit and not one drop of our kids or anyones blood should have been shed
This war, as Vietnam, is a fraud.

[sventvkg]

5. What Ellsberg fails to realize is they know exactly what they are doing

in Iraq..It's not some bumbling malfunction of an op...It as planned this way...to promote an evil Agenda...he needs to see that.

[Mari333]

6. I think he does know it

and is highly aware of the machinations of www.newamericancentury.org and their plans to attack Iraq since the early 90s, and their previous association with Hussein as our puppet at one time in the 80s.
Ellsberg is a hero, wish we had more like him now ...we are also dealing with a muzzled press who refuse to cover the whistleblowers and refuse to expose the lies in full as they are shown..everyone in the UK knows who Katherine Gun is, and Karen Kwiatowski, but not in the USA, where the corporate media ignores and does not a whit of investigative journalism.