US troops 'made Aristide leave'

[donsu]

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8833298^1702,00.html

HAITIAN leader Jean Bertrand Aristide was taken away from his home by US soldiers, it was claimed today.

A man who said he was a caretaker for the now exiled president told France's RTL radio station the troops forced Aristide out.

"The American army came to take him away at two in the morning," the man said.

"The Americans forced him out with weapons.

"It was American soldiers. They came with a helicopter and they took the security guards.

"(Aristide) was not happy. He did not want to be taken away. He did not want to leave. He was not able to fight against the Americans."

The RTL journalist who carried out the interview described the man as a "frightened old man, crouched in a corner" who said he was the "caretaker of the residence".
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well, the day before yesterday Smirk gave his THREAT to Aristide and when Aristide ignored it - wham-o, they swoop in and take him away.

are we proud of america yet?

(did France really help Smirk? that's hard to believe.)

[Renew Deal]

1. Link needs fixing.

[tomlu8]

9. Link

Here's the link for the article:
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8833298%5E1702,00.html

If you read the following you will see why Bush had to get rid of Aristide. His vision for the future of Haiti was too far to the left for Bush's liking. Fascism is the form of government that Bush supports because Corporations and the nobility are the ruling class and everyone else should be an indentured servant smothered in debt and fed state propaganda by the corporate controlled media.
The US is not the champion of democracy our leaders preach to us, we are the protectors of corporate and financial assets, the vanguard of the "New World Order", and the biggest threat to world peace and prosperity.
We must reform our government and our foreign policy before it is too late.
When is too late?
The next 4 years will be too late if we don't remove the Corporation from the White house.

Haiti - Insurrection in the Making

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What is the Political Backdrop to the Conflict? The crisis dates back to a political stalemate stemming from a contested election. In 2000-the same year that George Bush stole the US presidency-Haiti held elections for 7,500 positions nationwide. Election observers contested the winners of seven senate seats.

President Aristide balked at first, but eventually yielded and the seven senators resigned. Members of Haiti's elite, long hostile to Aristide's progressive economic agenda, saw the controversy as an opportunity to derail his government.

Since 2001, human rights activists and humanitarian workers in Haiti have documented numerous cases of opposition vigilantes killing government officials and bystanders in attacks on the state power station, health clinics, police stations and government vehicles. The US government did not condemn any of these killings.

In January 2004, the opposition escalated its protests. At some demonstrations, government supporters, who represent Haiti's poorest sectors, attacked opposition activists. Only then did US Secretary of State Powell issue a one-sided condemnation of 'militant Aristide supporters.'

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=54&ItemID=5043

[tom_paine]

2. Not America...Amerika

We lost our right to the 'c' of the Old American Republic when we left the Free World.

Imperial Amerika is not the same nation we all grew up in.

Nothing Imperial Amerika does surprises me in th least.

Nothing.

[Blue_Chill]

3. I don't think we forced him to leave.

I think we saved his ass by taking him away from those that were coming to force him out. Either way the dude was finished so I don't see the big deal here.

[DenverDem]

Wake up.

"Those that were coming to force him" out are called "the CIA".

"The dude was finished" because we were finishing him.

Regime change is our foreign policy SOP.

In our name, with our money.

[Blue_Chill]

14. whatever I don't go for wild eyed conspiracy nonsense

the guy is hated in his country and I see no reason to believe a conjured up story blaming the big bad american wolf for his removal.

[DenverDem]

21. Better than the closed eye corporatist nonsense.

Those who refuse to learn from history, are pretty gullible.

[donsu]

6. the big deal is that the bushgang planned the coup and pulled it off

that's illegal. we removed him at gunpoint.

[Blue_Chill]

15. You have proof or did you get all that from this story?

I go with the most likely scenerio as opposed to leaping for the tin foil.

[Loonman]

18. Usual tinfoil claptrap

n/t

[DenverDem]

19. Usual denialist fall back position.

"Tin foil."

[Loonman]

4. His head would have been on a pike, this morning.

If he hadn't been evacuated

[DenverDem]

5. And the pikers would have been

the CIA.

[Loonman]

7. Yeah........O---Kay

:eyes:

[bigtree]

10. Where did the rebels get those new uniforms and M16s?

[donsu]

8. agree - next we will probably see him at Gitmo

nt

[tomlu8]

11. No, next we outsource

US businesses will outsource to take advantage of the cheap and ready labor force there. I understand they have 70% unemployment in Haiti.
What a boon for the Free Traders who like to trade good paying American jobs for cheap products sold at Walmart.

[Blue_Chill]

17. Agreed.

If anything the US saved this fools life.

[bigtree]

20. The CIA stirred up the opposition and funded them

The risk to Aristide's life was from the forces the Bush cabal encouraged. What is so desirable about the terrorist Rebels as opposed to Aristide? What makes them better? They were shooting into hospitals yesterday. They are nothing but a band of thugs.

Who do you advocate run the country there? Apid is an American. This is U.S. imperialism. This is Bush Coup II.

[John BigBootay]

12. Don't know about this til we see more info-- but...

one thing is for sure. If we DID take him out of his home and put him on a helicopter, we sure as hell saved him from a fate worse than death. Those rebels were coming and NOTHING was going to stop them.

As for Bush and the CIA creating this crisis to oust JBA-- feh. Prove it. My mind is open.

[aquart]

13. Welcome to DU.

Bush doesn't believe in democratic government, or hadn't you noticed? Corporate structure is not democratic. He believes he is the CEO of the United States. That is what he promised, isn't it?

He wants all nations run like Halliburton.

[bigtree]

16. Someone in the Bush cabal encouraged and supplied the Rebels

Where did their brand new uniforms and M16s come from?

The Bush cabal created the crisis in order to force Aristide out. This is just another Clinton legacy that the Bush league engineered into a crisis that they could exploit and reverse. This same cabal resisted Clinton's repatriation of Aristide and stood behind the corrupt Gen. Cedras and his murderous Police Chief, Lieut. Col. Michel Francois.

These Rebels were shooting into hospitals yesterday. Who does the Bush cabal intend to replace Aristide? If they can defend the usurpers they could have just as well defended Aristide. You don't overthrow a government just because you don't like the management.

As for proof, open your eyes and ears to Aristide's supporters and their reports and close your mind to the lying Bush cabal.

[John BigBootay]

22. "where did the M-16's come from?" I don't know.

Why don't you tell me-- I'm willing to listen and learn before I come to a conclusion.

Haiti has gone through 33 coups since it's creation 200 years ago. There are weapons everywhere and arms dealers regularly ply their trade there. Can I be convinced that the Bush administration is practicing a new "lend-lease" program with the rebels? Sure-- so long as you provide the evidence.

As far as us kidnapping JBA-- well that's a pretty serious charge and a crime if true. My best solution is to immediately return him to the palace and pretend it never happened.

[DenverDem]

23. The participation of Otto Reich in this leads to certain conclusions.

His history of interventionist black ops in central America would indicate a similar modus operandi here.