What would a Gore Admin have been like? Put aside the crap about the...

[CalebHayes]

election.

This is simple, and I don't want to hear about the election. There are other threads about that. This is about what his Administration would have been like. Would he be able to get anything done? Would we be in Afghanistan? For that matter, how would he have handled 9-11? Would we have started this war on "terror?" Would we make progress with the environment? There are so many questions... Have at it folks.

[Caution]

1. better n/t

[rock]

2. Better

[CalebHayes]

10. Can we be a little more specific?

[Goldmund]

3. I doubt

9/11 would have happened.

[Luvpurp]

13. Questions that are never asked

There questions that haunt us because they are never answered, equally troubling if not more so for a so-called free society, are those questions that are never even asked. I have never heard the question asked by the mainstream media whether 9-11 would have happened if Gore had been inaugurated. Personally I think there is quite of bit of evidence that supports the conclusion that it would not have happened, but until the lazy, corporate, right-wing media does their job we will never know.

[recidivist]

23. Why on earth do you think that?

The litany of terrorist attacks against U.S. targets, by Al Quaeda and others, goes back many years. Reagan and Bush I had their share. More recently, in the Clinton era, the World Trade Center bombing was in '93. This was followed by the Khobar Towers bombing, the attack on the Cole, the embassy bombings, etc. It's not as if 9/11 just popped up out of nowhere.

The 9/11 operation was meticulously planned over a period of several years. There is no reason to suppose that the outcome of the 2000 elections influenced Al Quaeda in any way.

[trumad]

4. Depends

There are many who seriously doubt that 9/11 would NOT have happened because Gore would not have been so dismissive of the threats... I think he would have gotten Bin Laden without the invasion...

The Surplus may have taken a small hit from a slowing economy but it certainly would not have gone back into the Red...

Gay marriage wouldn't be as big an issue...

[CalebHayes]

8. He would have made sure not to let Gay marriage become an issue

[RobertSeattle]

5. Always a chance that with Gore there wouldn't have been a 9-11

The one thing I'm sure of is the GOP congress would probably have tried to impeach Gore after 9-11 though.

[MurikanDemocrat]

6. 911 wouldn't have happened. Iraq war wouldn't have happened.

We'd still have a surplus. Kyoto would be signed. We wouldn't have allies pissed off all over the world. We'd have more jobs.

In other words, we wouldn't have a jackass in the White House like we do now.

[patricia92243]

7. I believe he would do war on terror - in the correct way. Make real......

progress on environment issuses - which would also create a lot of new jobs. Protect SS - wish we had that lock box now.

There would be no deaths from unnecesarry war in Iraq. The world would still like us and be on our side.

Overtime pay not in jeopardy, women's right to choose not in danger.

[CalebHayes]

9. Nah, he would not call it a war on "terror"....

It would be that kind of "We are going to get the guys that did this" mentality.

[AndyTiedye]

12. President Lieberman would have Started the Iraq War for PNAC...

...right after President Gore got assassinated by "terrorists".

There wouldn't have been a 9/11. They only needed such a
bloody pretext to "legitimize" Bush*'s pResidency.

[DenverDem]

11. PNAC would not have gotten their "Pearl Harbor"

so no 9/11 and its horrific aftermath.

[worldgonekrazy]

17. Agreed

I think there probably would have still been a war in Afghanistan though, as that was something that was planned by the Clinton Administration as well. But it would have been done much more effectively with the aim of true government change for that country rather than just controlling the capital while the Taliban and local warlords terrorized the rest of the country.

[grytpype]

14. 9/11 possibly would have been averted, no attack on Iraq.

9/11 might have been averted because Clinton and Gore were a lot more serious about the terrorism threat than Duhbya. If 9/11 happened anyway, Gore would have hunted down the al Qaeda bases in Afghanistan and would have captured or killed bin Laden. No invasion of Iraq in any event, that was purely a creation of right-wing think tanks.

Also, no massive tax cuts for the wealthy. There would have been a stimulative spending program that would have ended the recession quicker.

In short: America would have been much better off with President Gore than with Generalissimo Duhbya.

[evil_orange_cat]

22. bravo! I agree with your assessment completely!

:D

[KansDem]

15. My wife read "Earth in the Balance..."

...and was impressed with Gore's plan for the environment: (As explained by my wife) Take the successes of the Clinton administration (regarding economic strength and budget surpluses) and use these successes to make nations more earth-friendly...

At least I recall this to be one summary of his writings...

[Q]

You think of election fraud and civil rights violations as 'crap'?

- ?

[CalebHayes]

20. No, I agree with you but I want this to be about the "presidency"

I have heard enough about the election. There are other threads for that.

[zbdent]

16. Okay, more specific

9/11 probably would not have been as massive as it was, because the world would not perceive Gore as trying to overturn the world for his gain.

Most of the treaties that Bush either nullified or brushed off would still be in effect.

Gore would have tried to push through the tax cuts more based toward the true middle class instead of benefitting mostly those making over $200K a year. He wouldn't have been able to, because the Senate would be 50 Repubs, 49 Dems and one seat in limbo because Lieberman would have had to resign his seat as Senator. Couple that with the Repubs still controlling the bare majority of the House, and you aren't likely to get any legislation approved.

We also wouldn't have to worry about the terrorists striking on 9/11 because the right wing would have had their dream come true (have to make one selection reference here) because it would have given them the chance for open, armed rebellion against the system that "installed" an illegal pResident (their concept). Have we, the left-leaning and beyond, started an armed Civil War?

The "recession" would never occur because of the spending of the Right Wing (conspiracy) efforts to smear Gore in every aspect of what he does. Advertisements in all kinds of newspapers and magazines and TV shows. People would be paid to spread groundless accusations.

Enough?

[onehandle]

18. Exactly the same as Bush's.

Just ask Nader.

[NewJeffCT]

19. no 9/11 and a stronger dollar

9/11 Would not have happened. The Hart-Rudman report would have been put into action and the Special Forces that were ready to roll would have been out hunting Al Qaida.

The recession would still have occurred, but we would not have had the egregious tax cuts for the rich forced upon us, as well as the no-limit inheritance tax... so, instead of $400 to $500 billion deficits, we'd likely have broken even or run a small deficit (to which the Reich Wing would have smeared Gore to no end for...)

We'd likely have gotten hit by terrorists at US locations around the world a few times, and if we did capture bin Laden by the summer of 2001, the Reich Wing would have started an investigation, claiming Gore did an end-around around the Constitution.

The Clean Air act would have been continued, saving corporatons billions of dollars (didn't the GAO do a study saying that while the Act cost business $X billion to implement, it saved much more than that just in the 90s?)

Manufacturing jobs, and programming & other white collar jobs would still have started flowing overseas... but, instead of a tidal wave, it would have been more gradual. Corporations likely would not have gotten all the tax breaks they got from Bush.

And, most importantly, the rest of the world would have continued to like us, instead of hating us.

[corporatewhore]

21. i think he still would be killing iraqis on a massive scale

via sanctions the us still would be backing sharon no matter what I think he still would have bombed afghanistan after 9/11 but not iraq ithink he would make little progress w/the environment because you cant be pro environment and pro free trade(http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/wto/FTAAWTOEnvironment.html) people would still be losin their jobs because of outsourcing.Corporations would still have control over the goovernment

[Capn Sunshine]

24. Markedly different

without having to run up huge deficits, the dollar would be stronger.
We would have been three years into a crash "moon landing" program to create new energy sources. Undoubtedly oil would be cheaper via this as well.

No crash in Silicon Valley, as the orders for new equipment would have poured in from the US Govt which still has six disctinct non connected archaic sytems cobbled together in the 70s. Gore recognized the urgent need for upgrades throughout the government. The Bushco guys figure it will last since it works now, long enough until the rapture.
Sure the flighty wacky internet issues would have flamed out anyway, but the tacit agreement of credit vehicles and finance rounds continuing in the face of massive government ordering would have been maintained.

The onset of the Enron crisis in California would have been stopped by the Federal Govt immediately, prevented the needless transfer of billions of doalars out of that economy, and hastening the decline of Enron, saving billions of dollars as the worst looting occurred in the last two years of that company's life.

9-11 may not have happened as the Clinton initiatives in the Middle East would not have been left to rot resulting in the subsequent mess there. Further, the security issues that concerned the Cllinton administration would have nbeen continued,not ignored. The warnings from foreign governments might have been taken seriously. The cooperation of Saudis and other exteremists who made of a critical part of the republicanb donor base would not have been allowed.

In short,

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER LESS FUCKED UP WORLD WHERE WE SAW MORE INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION AND LESS WAR.