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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:59 PM
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Heads UP!: 5PM EST - CNN - Bev Harris and BBV
in the first half hour. wolfie already previewed the segment.

sorry for the dupe but the other didn't say NOW , TODAY...
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:02 PM
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1. you'll see her
at 5:21 et.

a sneak peak at 5:17 et.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:11 PM
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2. thanks n/t
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:11 PM
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35. mp3 & vp3 here
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 11:14 PM by Wonk
1 M mp3

14 M vp3
It plays with QuickTime player. Vp3 is an awesome new (well, fairly new) codec, providing better quality video and smaller file sizes than Sorenson3, which is what I used to use.

To install the vp3 codec in your quicktime player, download this (or any vp3) movie file to disk, then try opening it with quicktime player, which will then ask if you want it to download the vp3 codec from Apple, then just pick yes.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:19 PM
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3. kick and she is coming up now after commercial break
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:23 PM
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4. Please feed cuberats.
Even crumbs will do.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:36 PM
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13. It was a short segment
They showed Maryland's SoS demonstrating the touch screens. Then they showed Rubin at a computer screen demonstrating how a vote could be tampered. Then they read the Diebold memo that said the smart cards could be tampered with. Then they said that Diebold said they upgraded the cards. Then they showed Bev who said it is not just the smart cards but the programming. They mentioned Diebold said they have upped the number of programmers. Then the SoS said that a voter receipt is just a false sense of security. Then they had Bev who said, no it is not a false sense of security, its our vote. Then they mentioned California and their problems with Diebold and said California will be using receipts in November.

They ended with CNN saying this situation will be closely monitored tomorrow, but didn't mention by who.

That's all I remember.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:57 PM
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21. Thanks much.
Sounds like some of it continues to "get out there".

:kick:

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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:24 PM
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28. Here's the Ringer to Watch for Tomorrow's Story Slant
"They ended with CNN saying this situation will be closely monitored tomorrow, but didn't mention by who."


Watch for pieces on how "trouble free" and "accurate" the election is. Watch for no one to point out that there is no way to know.

This was the kicker to the next story. I have some reservations, obviously, of how they will handle it.

Watch out for "head in the sand" analysis.

I hope not but if the did end with that, it makes me wonder.
:shrug:
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:26 PM
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5. Finally the so-called mainstream gives BEV airtime
BEV HARRIS - :yourock:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:28 PM
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don't miss the next Vanity Fair
BIG article on Bev and BBV. on sale 3/10! that should bump things up too!
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:38 PM
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14. Look, they've got their work cut out trying to photograph me
I didn't want to do photoshoots, TV or documentaries, but finally decided it's the only way to get public awareness. But, nostamj is right, because guess what:

BBV is going to be the FEATURE ARTICLE of the next Vanity Fair, on newsstands March 10. A large magazine article is 3,000 words. Vanity Fair assigned 7,000 words -- and then became so involved in the story they made it 10,000 words!

I hear there is a picture of Rob Behler in the article too. I am so gratified that this honest man is getting the kudos he deserves. A Vanity Fair photo shoot, and Adam Cohen, who is on the New York Times editorial board, flew to Georgia to meet Rob.

We are nudging this ever foward.

Watch for an announcement tonight from BBV about tomorrow's elections.

Bev
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:42 PM
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15. excellent work bev
so glad you and cnn made the connection. i was pushing HARD for it.


i would have liked to have seen more, sure, but this is only the tip of the iceburg ;-)
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:45 PM
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16. Agreed. And I knew you were pushing for it
thanks so much.

TV is the number one most important public awareness tool we have. It can literally tip the iceberg over in a very short time. NewsguyATL is one of many honest, concerned citizens. Thanks a million.

Bev
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:50 PM
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17. Oh please
You look beautiful. Don't worry about the photos.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:54 PM
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19. Agreed...
Bev is a class act and a lovely lady!

Bev :yourock:

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:27 PM
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6. pretty short but good points were made

covered the open source code, hacking it.

md official said 'alls fine, no paper needed'

Bev disagreed. she only had tiny sound bites.

they also showed a Diebold memo about no security with the cards.

gotta start somewhere!
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:28 PM
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7. it will get more attention
i promise.

right now, it's about exposure and getting the word out.


rest assured, diebold was watching.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:29 PM
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9. I hope Walden choked on
his glass of port.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:28 PM
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8. The Memo was found while we were in
New York...quite by accident
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:30 PM
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10. That memo is a damaging one.... here it is now:
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 05:31 PM by BevHarris
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/smartcardmemo.html

"Note that distributing this software is extremely dangerous. Our smart card format has absolutely no security, so if someone were to get a copy of this software and a reader, they could stand at the ballot station and quietly burn new voter cards all day. Of course that's also the case with PollBook.exe, but a notebook computer is a little harder to smuggle into a polling place, and besides most of our staff has trouble setting up a poll book, let alone outsiders. The Card Manager (Spyrus) is actually simple to use. Anyway, I can see the cover of USA Today in my head. Consider everyone warned."

They like to claim they fixed everything. Sorry, Diebold, something else you don't know I have: The release notes to GEMS 1.18.18. They did NOT correct the security problems with GEMS!

Bev
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:35 PM
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12. "GEMS 1.18.18"

1818181818 where have I seen those numbers before? AHAHAHAHA!
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:55 PM
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20. Mark of the Beast on steroids!
:evilgrin:

Play BBV the HOME GAME! Read the book, watch the Press and see how many of their LIES you can catch! It's FUN! It's EASY! and it's FREE!

:kick:BLACK BOX VOTING - Ballot Tampering in the 21st Century:kick:



Chapter 1
Chapter 2
Chapter 3
Chapter 4
Chapter 5
Chapter 6
Chapter 7
Chapter 8
Chapter 9*
Chapter 10
Chapter 11
Chapter 12
Chapter 13*
Chapter 14
Chapter 15
Chapter 16
Appendix
Footnotes
Index


* graphics, allow time to load

Requires free Adobe Acrobat Reader to view. :)


:kick:
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:30 PM
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11. Damn!
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 05:35 PM by ewagner
I saw the whole presentation and I think CNN did a crappy job of reporting the issues and real problem with the machines. As a whole I don't think the correspondent grasped that the results could be tampered with and the actual tablulation of the votes could be manipulated.

For instance, Bev claimed that a single programmer could manipulate "millions" of votes to which CNN got a Diebold response that they (Diebold) were "carefully screening THEIR programmers."

Bull! Their programmers are not the problem, it's their crappy software that can allow ANY programmer to hack it.

I guess I should be happy that it finally made "big-time" news.

on edit: Thank you Bev. You're one helluva soldier :yourock:
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:51 PM
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18. IMHO....
(I didn't realize there was a dupe, I wondered why so few responses to it... anyway):

:boring: I guess I should be "tickled" that the subject was even brought up on Blitzer's show, but when you just said it was... "just in passing without depth" that is a monumental understatment. I tried to view it as a completely "uninformed" viewer would, and it certainly didn't "alarm" me. Of course, with my perspective, I thought they should have been screaming to the rooftops at how dangerous the situation is and how it is THE greatest threat to democracy as we know it.

Instead, they show that "person" who is in charge of the machines in Maryland (?) saying that she thought having a paper copy was just SO unnecessary; then they had the little clip of what could have been construed as a rebuff by Bev Harris as she said, "It's just our vote". Well, taken out of context that could mean anything.

Yes, I'm glad it showed up in the mainstream media at all. Did it make a strong impression, and was the story very well done? The answer to that is still a resounding NO!
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:03 PM
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22. Vanity Fair, on newsstands March 10, 10,000 word Feature Article.....
.....That is all. :evilgrin:
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:21 PM
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23. I would like to note that
everyone's favorite Diebold defenders are once again absent. They crawled out of their holes last week when the idiot judge in California ruled that voting machines are *just* fine.

Now that more bad news is comind out for Diebold (NYT, CNN and Vanity Fair), they crawl back into their holes and don't make a peep.

David Allen
www.plan9.org

Diebold Voting Machines
We vote for you, so you don't have to!
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:26 PM
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24. It would be kind of nice if they would show up.....
.....so we can have yet another chance to post the truth! :evilgrin:

They make it soooo easy. :) Hi David! :hi:
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:16 PM
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25. I wonder just where
tinfoil is...I said it...you didn't.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:21 PM
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27. cleaning up port wine stains?
<and I never said that so stop saying I did>
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:05 PM
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30. Ok you didn'tsay that
but you did :evilgrin:
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:19 PM
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26. diebold
refused to do an oncam interview or even talk to cnn, said they were too busy.

go figure.

they can only keep hiding but so much.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:30 PM
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29. Perhaps their reporter can catch Wally.....
.....at the next Bush* fundraising event that they cover. :evilgrin:
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:13 PM
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31. But wait -- about that quote?
About the memo...when CNN reported that Diebold claimed the memo was "stolen" and that it only represented an employee's opinion and that now they've added a password? They must have spoken to someone...heh heh.

Bev
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:49 PM
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32. USA Today
Hmmmmmm...did you call em yet? Oh wait...you did :evilgrin:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:30 PM
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33. Yahoo! front page... VOTE it a 5! ok?
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040302/ap_on_hi_te/e_voting_s_biggest_test_1

"The modernization of the nation's voting infrastructure is long overdue," said Alfie Charles, spokesman for Oakland-based Sequoia, which builds the machines as many as 4 million voters in California and Maryland will use Tuesday.

But computer scientists have been protesting the switch. They're particularly concerned that few of the computers provide paper records, making it nearly impossible to have meaningful recounts, or to prove that vote tampering hasn't occurred.

Politicians, voter-rights advocates and even some secretaries of state have recently acknowledged that the systems could theoretically fail — with catastrophic consequences.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:45 PM
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34. Voted 5
:kick:
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