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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:28 AM
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kerry supporting ministers and priests
need to gather themselves up adn unite and take back christianity. i think that is a strong one. the religious deocrats need to say you dont get to own jesus, he is not just yours, you are abusing and misusing christianity. i believe this is a big shift that can be done on the strangle hold of the republican party
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:29 AM
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1. Is Kerry doing this or is this your idea?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:39 AM
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2. the religious left
Edited on Thu Mar-04-04 10:41 AM by seabeyond
mine. only mine. no one seems to see the hijacking of jesus. i am seeing signs, bush/christ..........like jesus is his vp. i am hearing monisters (bah ha ha, meant ministers, lol) and top organizers telling people jesus will know your vote and you will go to hell if you vote for kerry.

the bush admin brought god smack into the white house, ignoring seperation of state and religion.

every step of the way i can show where the religious are being the hypocrits jesus so had issue with.

75/80 percent of the people in u.s. are christian. they have to know a democrat christian is a good thing. we need to put out a democratic christian is a good thing. and again like so much of the democrats, we dont go into battle with this stuff, we just say, ah, people get to believe as they want, seperate state and church, embrace athiest, we are so open minded and embracing of all including, gays atheist, that we allow to be painted as non christian, which is just a non truth

there is a big voting block out there we have handed to the republicans. i want it back, or democrats will be losing forever
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:40 AM
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3. and i am not a religious zealot
democrats arent. that is why we are losing the battle.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:46 AM
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4. religion is the real battle
we can talk right and left, republican and democrat male and female, rich and poor. but at this time in our history, the battle is religion. it is a religion war in the middle east and it is a religion war in u.s. the fundamentalist truly are trying to take all. they want the public schools out, they want school systems to be run by baptist, adn then they have the young to brainwash. at that point they win. just like in saudi where religion is their educational system and they sit in sway and prayer, kill all but........even kill our own to win. allah good.

we are trying to create exactly the same in the u.s. adn democrats are allowing in fear. we dont touch religion. we are afraid
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:47 AM
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5. Yep
Edited on Thu Mar-04-04 10:48 AM by GreenPartyVoter
But how to do it without looking like more Bible thumpers, that's the tricky part. :( Plus, we do not want to alienate or offend athiests or folks with a different belief system. (Which is why you rarely heard from the spiritual left in the first place.)

http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/liberalchristians.htm
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 11:12 AM
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6. universal law
i have found.

when doing something especially religion in the lower vibration, it is easy to prove otherwise. it is easy to hear the non truth.

every step of the way, their is jesus words, peace and harmony that they step on, .......

when staying in purity, when sitting in harmony, it doesnt hurt anyone, it is the best for all, there is not anger or violence. the minister preachers are the ones that know how to do. they need to stand up and do

and that includes embracing the prostitutes, the athiests know the bible way more than most christians i know. they can understand. they know if a christian listens to the words of jesus, then they will be ok.........they have to want the christians to sit in religion in purity. shoot, they are the ones that can help so./

i know they want religion out of their lives, and some militant want it out of u.s. period, well like all of us, the green, the enviromentalist, baby steps, first we have to slow down the forward motion of taking over by fundamentalist, bring it to a stop a stillness. and then we can change the direction of motion

anger doesnt cut it, ugly doenst do it, the only way will be in purity adn love, for true christianity to be heard.
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