Just heard on AM Radio news that Bush* is going to pull his 9-11 Ad

[Bandit]

The country it appears is up in arms over it and finds it highly distasteful. Hope this is true, but it was reported as fact. Don't have a link as I just heard it a couple of minutes ago.

[Beetwasher]

1. Bwhwhahahahaahah!!!!

That's friggin' AWESOME!!!

Holy cow! If that's true it's a major black eye!!!

[Turbineguy]

2. Gee..... that's too bad

just when it was pissing so many people off and showing everybody what a no good scumbag asshole @#$%@&*(()#$%#$ he is!

[SammyWinstonJack]

16. Figured that was coming

I was hoping Team Smirk in all it's arrogance would continue running the ads. Pissing off so many means that many more, that won't vote for Smirk Boy! :bounce:

[Turbineguy]

103. I like your avatar

I have a T-shirt with that and "DONT'T PANIC!"

On the ships, when I was called out in the middle of the night for some crisis in the Engine room, I used to wear that shirt. Nobody paniced. The lights still went out and the machinery stopped, but everyone was calm.

[Hoosier Democrat]

3. WOW! That was fast!!

I knew the shit would hit the fan, but to pull the ads within a day!!!

I also heard on one of the late-night news shows earlier this week that several of the 9/11 families who are upset at the White House stalling the 9/11 Commission are planning a demonstration at Ground Zero during the Reptilian Convention!!!! GOD, I hope they do!!!!!!
That could lead to a media implosion worse than what happened to Humphrey in '68!

[pnorman]

33. "the Reptilian Convention"

I LOVE it!! I don't know if it's your original coinage, but it's the first time I've ever seen it. I'll be using it at appropriate moments from here on. THANKS.

pnorman
STAND UP, KEEP FIGHTING http://shows.implex.tv/wellstone

[Hoosier Democrat]

92. No, it's not an original! I saw it somewhere else here on DU and loved it

[catmandu57]

96. That's mine

I've been using the term reptile when talking about these people for years and years. I only started using the repuke term when I started posting here.
Reptile fits, these cretins use the small primal survival part of their brains and express disdain for anyone who thinks.

[Chomskyite]

112. You sure you didn't get it from David Icke?

[Zhade]

81. Is it possible this was a trial balloon to measure public reaction?

The sheer arrogance of the b*sh administration seems to show that they usually don't give a damn what anyone thinks. Could this have been a way to "test the public waters" for reaction to such ads?

I'm thinking about the whole "Hastert denies 911 Commission more time" situation that just occurred. I believe that was a total set-up to make b*sh look like the good cop - Hastert says "no more time!", media gets people pissed off, b*sh rides in on his white horse to save the day (note to self: :puke: ).

Normally, when the traitor-in-chief and his handlers make a potentially inflammatory decision, they keep it buried from the media. I think we got played with the Hastert thing, and I'm wondering if this was a test run of the "911 = b*sh = hero" meme the BFEE wants to exploit.

Anyone else feel that way? Or am I off my rocker?

[ithacan]

4. he has nothing else to run on!!!!

except for the bullshit lies about 9/11.

I hope this is true, but I also hope it's not, cause the longer he runs these insulting disgusting ads, the more people are gonna be really pissed off at him...

[CatWoman]

5. Republicans, especially Smirky

need to understand that 9/11 is NOT their trademark!!!

This is excellent news!!!

[stepnw1f]

52. Actually it is

The produced 9/11 by not doing anything bfore it happened.

[Qanisqineq]

7. glad I'm not the only one thinking that

but I'm kinda evil

[ithacan]

45. hey, nothing wrong with

being evil, as long as the target of the evil is the Bush regime :evilgrin:

[grasswire]

12. nothing

He has NOTHING TO RUN ON.

Everything evokes negatives.

Economy, homeland safety, 9-11, Iraq, foreign policy, veterans issues, senior issues. All of them piss people off.

He'll have to run AGAINST something. (Culture wars?)

But the best news is that his campaign has a tin ear already. They already blew the first chance to shape the campaign.

[underpants]

18. Odd thing is it wasn't that big of a thing to run on anyway

NBC exit polls showed that only 9% of Dems (about the same nationally) say that it was the most important thing.....economy got 42%.

Well I guess that leaves the constitutional amendment to restrict rights a real "don't you have more important things to worry about?" head scratcher.

[Skidmore]

32. Where'd you get those

righteous shorts anyway? Nothin' like a p'od pair of briefs.

[underpants]

39. SoCalDem

gave them to me when I first got on DU. There was a petition in the lounge for me to put them back on my sig line....I does what the ladies ask. :-)

[leftchick]

89. personaly, I really miss that thong...

my kids loved it too! Bring back the Thong!!!

[underpants]

97. Just for you

[leftchick]

107. ooh baby! It is not the same thong but...

I like it better! Thanks underpants! :) :) :)

[SoCalDem]

110. Here are the "girlie" ones I made for him

[stepnw1f]

60. His electability is not the issue

To me this is just a smoke-screen. He and his gang are ripping off everything and anything they can before the end of his term. Sequioa on sale!$$$$

[KoKo]

6. Bad Move for Him.....shows he's becoming "weak." His base won't like

it. His Poppy started making mistakes about this time in his last year in office. Like father like son.

Good News for us, if this is true. When has the Chimp caved? If he's caving on this....there's more to come.

[trumad]

8. From an earlier thread posted by a brilliant poster

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1192580&mesg_id=1192580

[Stephanie]

34. brilliant

AND... when they here a callous Bush shitbird like Karen Hughes dismiss the families concerns of Bush exploitation by stating "With all due respect, I just completely disagree, and I believe the vast majority of the American people will as well," .. Uh Huh...sure Karen... What you're telling us is that we disagree with the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 and agree with a dude who hid out in Nebraska.. Er..OK Karen!

[trumad]

72. You know I was only kidding about the brilliant part

I meant handsome and sexy..;-)

[Stephanie]

74. and modest

and self-effacing

[jean]

55. bush* has given more footage for Kerry ads - ck out Clinton '92 ads

at this site:

http://www.ammi.org/cgi-bin/video/years.cgi?1992,,ss,,,

Scroll down a little and click/watch the two Clinton videos that have Poppy thumbnail pics (#3 and #4) -

Shrub is a cheap clone of his poppy and continues to provide the richest images and sound bites for our side.

[OneTwentyoNine]

9. That can't be!! Limbaugh said the masses were in favor...

He said the ONLY one making any noise about the ad was one 9/11 widow--I guess to Rush she didn't count for anything.

He went on to say that most of the US was in total agreement with the ad except the whining Democrats. Oh yeah Rush??

David

[AJ BENDER]

78. FYI

One Rush Limbaugh is an emaciated (thanks to Oxy) lying sack of shit.

[Joanne98]

10. but but but

Karen Hughes said it was a shared experience

[Terran]

48. LOL, that witch Karen Hughes is going look preeeetty stupid

if those ads get pulled. A shared experience indeed. Could that sound any lamer?

[Kahuna]

51. And..and..Tweety said Democrats have, "ad envy."

:wtf: :puke:

[cybildisobedience]

85. my first thoughts, too --

Tweety will be so disappointed!!! He was back in his old "isn't he manly" mode where he and G. Gordon Liddy slobber over the bulge in Bush's flight suit harness.

[Sophree]

109. I was wondering what Tweety was going to say today.

He was practically drooling over the ad last night. Last night, I drove home from work right after reading about the ad here on DU.

My blood was boiling and I probably shouldn't have been driving I was SO mad.

Tweety was practically gaga, and I was completely sick. Plus he's been "Gore-ing" Kerry. If he does not do his JOB this election and cover it fairly... :grr:

[htuttle]

11. "Karl, what other commercials do we have ready?"

"Well, we have this one where you land on an aircraft carrier...."

"Forget it."

[qanda]

21. Thanks a lot!!!!!

Now I have to clean coffee off my screen.

[quispquake]

57. LOL!

Thanks for that one...laughed myself silly!

[OneTwentyoNine]

13. The country should be just as outraged over his stance on gays IMO....

His stance and the rest of the flaming religious right owned Bush WH.


David

[LisaM]

14. LOL, they cost $4 million!

I hope they make a few other mistakes totalling in the millions. Maybe next time they won't have the violin music sawing away.

Those ads are such a joke. I kind of wish they had run them for a bit. I heard someone from the Kerry campaign on the radio this morning (may just have been with the DNC, not specifically Kerry) saying there was no need for Kerry to run anything at all while these ridiculous ads were playing, because of the negative impression they were making.

[madmax]

19. So that's 4 mil

shot to hell :) Still doesn't make a dent in his war chest.

[MoonAndSun]

15. This Yahoo link may answer your questions about the ad

<http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&e=1&u=/ap/20040304/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_political_ads>

snip>> WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites)'s day-old campaign commercials drew sharp criticism Thursday from relatives of the victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and a firefighters union with ties to Democratic rival John Kerry (news - web sites) demanded they be pulled from the air.




Looks like the firefighters are not going to allow these ads to continue, and they will condemn bush* until they pull the ads.

Go Union!!

[madmax]

26. God, I LOVE Firemen

Not only because they put their lives on the line for us everyday. They are standing up for us and themselves. Bravo to all our Brave first responders and that includes Policemen/women, paramedics, all of them :loveya:

[arcane1]

17. HA-ha! All that money wasted...

and sadly, the horror of 9/11 is the only positive thing Bush can run on!!! LOL!!!!

Here come the attack ads, I guess...

[yellowcanine]

35. I don't think the money was wasted.

On the contrary, if this is true, WE got our money's worth.

[Zero Gravitas]

53. no

its even better than that: WE got THEIR money's worth!

I hope they keep spending money demonstrating why Bush* should be sent home to his fake "ranch".

[Skidmore]

36. Let him waste some more. nt

[Skidmore]

37. Let him waste some more. nt

[Gloria]

20. BUT--Kerry must continue to cite this ad as an example of Bush's

manipulation of fear, exploitation and misuse of families, etc. etc.

I want to see some fight....I am waiting for some real fight!!!

Don't miss this chance to stick a few fingers right in Bush's little eyeballs WHEN HE IS DOWN!!!!

If Kerry doesn't take advantage of this, to use it as an example of BushCRAP, then he's missing his first chance to blow a huge chink in Bush's armor....

STOMP ON HIM NOW!!

[nostamj]

30. Kerry:

seems like the country responded to this distasteful political use of the 9/11 tragedy before I had a chance to.

just a suggestion, not a real quote.

[lapislzi]

93. Kerry needs to be careful about his reaction to this

He can't appear to take advantage of the taking advantage. He should let others do that for him. He needs to be above it all.

Damn it's cold on that high road.

[yellowcanine]

22. I hope this is true

If true this will make them gunshy about using Iraq war images as well - though I think the carrier flyboy image might actually backfire on them so it would be good if they would try it also. The "fake" turkey is probably a dud as well. What's a smirk to do? All of his "best" photo ops are turning sour on him. He has the reverse Midas's touch. Good.

[GreenPartyVoter]

23. Hmmm.... interesting indeed!

[MoonAndSun]

24. another snip from the yahoo article:

"In Bal Harbour, Fla., the International Association of Fire Fighters Union approved a resolution asking the Bush campaign to pull the ads, spokesman Jeff Zack said. The resolution also urges Bush to "apologize to the families of firefighters killed on 9/11 for demeaning the memory of their loved ones in an attempt to curry support for his re-election." The union gave Kerry an early endorsement in the presidential race.



Yes!! I want to see bush* come out on all the news channels and for once in his life, apologize for being a dumbass!!:evilgrin:

[jean]

67. if he pulls the ad it'll be one of the first times our public has been

outraged enough to respond and force actual results.

[Crachet2004]

25. He always did look like a graverobber to me!

Anything for personal gain! Greed is good! I hope they choke on it!

If he has to pull those adds, I hope our leaders turn up the heat on it!

Anytime they make a boneheaded mistake like that, grab them by the back of the neck and rub their faces in it! Be brutal, and don't back off.

And when they finally get up and try to run away, kick 'em in the A$$!!!

Anyone who would try to use the dead for political gain should be shown no mercy.

The victims of 911 and their families deserve better. And so do we!

[MrBenchley]

Steady leadership, my ass......

The unelected drunk can't even turn out a campaign commercial...

[madmax]

31. Oh, it's steady

running our country straight into the ground.

[MrBenchley]

62. If he can't even run a campaign

why should we leave him at the tiller of the Ship of State?

[stepnw1f]

27. The Dems should use this as a way to expose how idiotic Bush is.

[DrWeird]

28. Next up- Carrier landing.

Which will probably be a bigger dud.

Then after that they'll get desperate and bring up Osama Hussein.

And then the campaign implodes.

[Paragon]

Bet they won't pull it from their website

http://www.georgewbush.com/tvads/

The offending ad - "Safer, Stronger" - is still up there.

[Timefortruth]

94. Man, I watched those , now I have to take a long shower and scrub

and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub and scrub.

[Joanne98]

29. If he can't run 9/11 commerials what's he going to do, tapdance?

This day is starting out good.:)

[YNGW]

38. Uhhhhhh....

They've had these ads prepared to air for months now. You don't spend the money they spent on these ads and not have researched the expected response from the opposition and all other angles and reached the conclusion that it won't hurt you. The ads will go on as scheduled.

[underpants]

44. You are probably right

but let them have some fun for a while.

:shrug:

[YNGW]

47. Oh please...

But, I just love raining on other people's parades. That reality crap is such a bitch!

;-) :hi:

[Beetwasher]

49. You Could Say the Same Thing About the Carrier Landing

They went ahead w/ that though...

They're idiots who over reach all the time and only want to hear what they wanted to hear.

We'll see.

[YNGW]

61. I bet the will go ahead with it.

And I won't doubt that it'll play well to the American public. DU is fun, but it is an isolated world, not real, doesn't accurately reflect the views of the majority of Americans, is re-active rather than pro-active. In fact, if people here say it'll bomb, I'm more inclined to believe it won't. It's not the fault of the site per se, it just the process of everyone liking to hop on the same bandwagon just to feel good (like 'underpants' points out "You are probably right but let them have some fun for a while"), even if it's not going anywhere. I just appraoch things here with that in mind. I encourage you to do the same.

Best To You.

[Beetwasher]

66. As I Said, We'll See

How'd the carrier stunt go over again?

How much of what we've said here on DU has been acknowledged as reality eventually? I remember the carrier stunt was panned and I personally predicted it would backfire. It did. Remember everything that was being said about Iraq on this site before the war? I'd say DU has a great track record.

You're not paying attention if you think otherwise.

I suggest you pay attention to reality instead of your deep seeded cynicism (or whatever it is). There's LOT'S of outrage over this ad from Firemen to 9/11 families.

[Generic Other]

108. Yes. And every firefighter has relatives and friends across the country

Play with them and Bush is gonna get burned.

Didn't his mother ever teach him not to play with fire?

[Don Claybrook]

70. It's not DU that's on the front page of every major daily

Rather, it's the story about the outrage being expressed by Bush running these ads. It's also the topic of several polls, and all of them are running strongly against the notion of using such advertising. I'm aware of the DU echo chamber effect, but this is NOT an instance of the effect. It's nationwide, and it's damaging to Bush.

He'll drop it.

And by the way, you give the administration WAY too much credit for knowing how the public will react. They're used to everyone falling in line when they say so. I think they've been horrified of late that the press doesn't jump when they say jump. They're losing control, and they were never geniuses in the first place, just bullies. They've worn out their welcome.

[Malva Zebrina]

88. I have that feeling also

they do believe they will get their way in everything they decide to foist upon us

It did not work this time--and it really was quite stupid of him, but then..well you know

He went through with the arrogance of it all because he believes he can do anything he wants and does not have to account to anyone for it.

the picture on the web site cracks me up--look at her mouth.

--no joker smile now--instead we have the librarien dissapproval, wrinkled mouth. Geez they both look old and really, really fake.
She has so much pancake makeup on that she looks greasy. The makeup is sinking into her wrinkles.

https://www.georgewbush.com/Secure/BushTeamLeaderSignUp.aspx

[jansu]

40. What else does he have to run on? Nothing, so expect negative ads

for our Nominee! We must answer back with truth! Not only about our Nominee, but especially about Bush.

We must get the message out that 911 happened on Bush's watch! He is responsible for it....make them run from this!

[Joanne98]

50. We should run a lihop/mihop commerial

n/t

[Jane Austin]

73. Lihop/ mihop?

*

What do those acronyms mean?

Thanks/

[catmandu57]

84. LIHOP/MIHOP

refer to 11 September, they stand for LET IT HAPPEN ON PURPOSE and MADE IT HAPPEN ON PURPOSE.

As you can see there are two schools of thought on this, the first lihop is that bush* was so incompetent, so lazy that even though they were warned about terrorist plans from the Clinton administration, they let the information slide and let the towers be attacked on purpose. Why? There are different schools on that as well, knowing that Iraq would be invaded sometime after the theft, 11 sept. provided a perfect excuse to drag the country into war.
MIHOP, is just a little more tin foil, the idea being that they knew of the plans to attack the trade centers and purposely made it happen.
If the second were ever to be found as true, drawing and quartering would be too good for this bunch of misfits.
Welcome to DU.

[Zhade]

86. They refer to how 9/11 happened.

LIHOP: (that lying murderous traitor b*sh) Let It Happen On Purpose

MIHOP: (that lying murderous traitor b*sh) Made It Happen On Purpose

[hatrack]

41. Well, there's still the Thanksgiving turkey searching Bush's pockets

And Bush dropping the dog, and horching that big ol' loogie while walking back to the White House, and demonstrating his "compassionate environmentalism" with an axe in his hand.

Beyond that, I'm at something of a loss as to just what they'll air next.

;-)

[northernsoul]

42. Damn, I has hoping that B*sh would put another round in the chamber

and keep shooting himself in the foot!

Actually this is great news, it means that the shameless exploitation of 9-11 has now officially reached the point of diminishing returns and is useless as a tool of GOP hypocritical propaganda.

[OneTwentyoNine]

43. And they say individuals can't make a difference.....

Well...today blows that old theory clear to HELL.

YES YES YES............


David

[SoCalDem]

46. Maybe it was my e-mail

:evilgrin:
SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-04-04 06:42 AM
Original message
Thank you George Bush.. Write to him and Thank him

Edited on Thu Mar-04-04 07:35 AM by SoCalDem
for coming clean about 9/11..

I wrote this e-mail..


As a Democrat, I must say I was a bit startled when I saw one of the ads that President Bush has started running.. There are a lot of people out here who will be very glad to know that he has finally "claimed" the responsibility that he bears for the 9/11 calamity.. That MUST be the reason that he is using it in his ad. To be using it any other way would have to mean that he has set the tone of his campaign as .."It ain't my fault"..

Since he is the person who pushes personal responsibility as a personal mantra, I can only assume that he is finally taking responsibility for the 9/11 event, the disastrous economy, and the other problems that our country has endured during his 3 1/2 years as president..

I never thought he would own up to those things.. I commend you for taking such a bold move.. I guess admitting the truth late, is better than not admitting it at all..


Sincerely,
yadayadayada



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1192572&mesg_id=1192572

[Zhade]

90. That's a great email! :-)

Very nicely done!

[qanda]

54. Does anyone have a link yet?

I wasn't able to find this story on google news.

[DinahMoeHum]

56. Tee hee. Bushie-boy got hoisted on his own petard. . .

and Kerry didn't even have to break a sweat!!


:kick:

[supernova]

58. Oh, please let this be true!

But a part of me does want them to continue down this self-destructive path.

If the GOP keeps it up with the stupid moves, the election will be purely ours to lose, not theirs to win.

[peaches2003]

59. Now move the convention

He also should move the convention out of NYC, which is just as blatantly using 911 for his own arrogant political purposes. No doubt he will be giving his acceptance speech on the footprint of the twin towers. Arrogant little sniveling bastard.

[stepnw1f]

63. And give us OUR money back after you get the boot.

[lebkuchen]

64. Until that happens, seize the opportunity and hit him back, with letters

to your local newspaper editors.

[jackstraw45]

65. What station?

It's been 30 minutes and that's an eternity in this day and age for news like that.

They must have been mistaken.

[HootieMcBoob]

68. I can't find any confirmation of this

So far this is just a rumor. There's nothing in google news about this. I hope it's true but at this point I'm skeptical.

On what AM Radio show did you hear it? Was it in the news or was it part of some show?

[MoonAndSun]

69. See my post #15, the firefighters are demanding that bush* pull

the ads and want a formal apology from bush* to the 9-11 families and to the firefighters.

[peaches2003]

71. MD

Not on Drudge either and he would jump right on this if it were true.

[callous taoboy]

75. Bush may as well

have shown his fanny in an ad. Would've been just as distasteful.

[democratreformed]

76. I sure hope they cost a lot of money to make. All that wasted. LOL. n/t

[mindfulNJ]

77. so much for the genius of Karl Rove!

It's good for our side either way...don't pull'em and look like insensitive clods...pull'em and look like jerks for putting them on in the first place.:P

[AJ BENDER]

79. No Confirm on AP Wire

as of 3:30

Still just a rumor

[alarcojon]

98. I also can't find confirmation...

I would love for this to be true - the Dems could both point out how distasteful the ads were AND how Bush flip-flopped by pulling them within a day.

However, I am also skeptical. I'll keep checking back to see if someone has a link.

BTW, the disgust of the 9/11 families at the ads is on the BBC news front page also.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3534533.stm

[Blue-Jay]

80. One more Bush backfire.

This administration is self-destructing before our eyes, and it's a wonderful thing to witness.

[CalebHayes]

82. What station, I bet I can dig up a link?

[pstokely]

83. was this on a Clear Channel hate station

?

[symbolman]

87. "Hi, I'm George W. Bush

and I inspected and approved this commercial.."

Don't they have to admit that THEY okay'd the commercial PERSONALLY?

That makes it even more interesting..

[David Zephyr]

91. That's Right, Symbolman.

Hadn't thought of that. It does make it more interesting.

By the way, thanks for being the rabblerouser you are. I love the whole Novak thing! You do rock! :hi:

[Atman]

101. The candidates HAVE TO use their own voices

That is why the "I'm George Bush..." line. It is part of the campaign finance reform law, to stop those vague "call some guy in Washington and tell him you hate the blah blah bill." This way, the candidates are forced to take responsibility for the lies in their ads.

Kerry will have to do the same thing when his ads start running.

[Skittles]

95. FALTERING AT THE STARTING GATE

F***ING EXCELLENT. :thumbsup:

[catmandu57]

100. Faltering, I must be getting tired

I could've sworn I read farting.

[Skittles]

104. FARTING AT THE STARTING GATE

LOL.......FREDDIE :7

[Eurobabe]

99. quick somebody save a copy

before it goes down the memory hole?!

[Beetwasher]

102. Apparently Wolf Blitzer on CNN Just Confirmed!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1194912#1195013

Anyone else hear this?

[jmaier]

105. I'm glad that it is so poorly received so

that being said I wish they'd run the hell out of it for the next 8 months!

You know, if the "country" doesn't let Bush politicize 9/11 he is in a weaker position than Rove, et al might have presumed.

[MUAD_DIB]

106. Another photoprob turned ugly.

I hope it is true.

Maybe shrubby has a few more flobs up Rove's sleeve.

[slinkerwink]

111. wow------he ran the ad for less than a DAY and now he's pulling it?!?

bwahahahahahaha bwahahahahaha.....

[underpants]

113. NO they aren't pulling it

ABC said last night that they had no intentions of pulling the ads.