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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:24 PM
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I was just privy to a discussion about *.
Person A said he's not very excited about another four years of Bush, mainly because he's completely sick and tired of the "mindless, factless rants about him". Accused liberals of making a devil out of Bush, "instead of trying to help unite the country and offer sober-minded criticisms."
Person B replied that he almost don't want Bush re-elected so all the whining and complaining about him will stop. Yearned for "the good old days when liberals only whined about Newt", and weren't fueled with this "deep-rooted anger."
Person C opined that liberals have pinned all their angst and everything they perceive to be wrong with the world on Bush, "their favorite scapegoat. It’s a great example of the blame-storming, victimology culture we live in."

To me, it sounds like they're giving up on their boy Dubya, and looking for a face-saving way to do it. They're realizing that the Emperor has no clothes, that there's no "there" there, and he can't be defended. And blame-storming? Scapegoating? Good lord, Repugs wrote the book on that.

Any brilliant responses?
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SonofMass Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:26 PM
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1. Sounds like they want
Ralph Nader.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:44 PM
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7. :puke:
:puke: eom
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:27 PM
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2. Seems To Me That Their Behavior Reflects Transference
instead of of understanding and acceptance of Bush's faults.

Transference means that they are transferring the blame to liberals for complaining about Bush's problems.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:28 PM
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3. Ignore Bush until the convention
Concentrate on building a platform with real solutions to the problems.
Let Bush stew in his own problems.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:29 PM
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4. Maybe they liked complaining about Clinton MORE
than they like *.. It's much easier to be the "pickER", than the "pickEE"...

The thing that really baffles me is the willlingness to overlook everything he does..:shrug:
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Amich Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:39 PM
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5. I don't know that the problem is over looking
It seems more that it is a need for the party to win no matter how bad. They tune out any information they don't like. And can say they don't know where we are getting our information. I talked to one of my friends who is going to vote for * again. He has excuses or reasons why what bush has done is right and he argues till he is almost blue in the face that * has never changed his stories. When I show him papers he just says I am to liberal.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:53 PM
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9. No doubt.. The pre-impeachment RW whack-job Clinton bashing
was really fun to listen to, good times indeed. These idiots are just starting to realize now how good they had it under Clinton and are ramping up for the 24/7 Kerry bash fest. Come November they're going to party like it's 1992.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 04:38 PM
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12. SoCalDem swings and hits one out of the park!
It's a lot easier to attack than to defend. You have to actually know the truth to defend. You can attack with innuendo and rumor, no facts are necessary.

They can't defend Bush because they either know the attacks are true or they don't have a good response because they are clueless on the issue. Once you get beyond "tax cuts" and "leadership", they are lost.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:39 PM
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6. They want a "uniter." Not a "divider."
nt
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:46 PM
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8. They are in Denial
they want to think that the (growing) anti-Bush sentiment in this country is irrational like their hatred of Clinton was/is. Unlike the anti-Clinton feelings the Bush-hatred is not based on fake scandals ("oooh! he lost $30,000 on a land deal, lets spend $40,000,000 and 8 years investigating him) its based on his many huge failures as president and on the theft of the 2000 election.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:55 PM
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10. Remember all the love that the repubs showed Clinton?
It makes you all warm inside when you think back on all of that touchy feely republican love fest that they had for Clinton.
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 03:59 PM
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11. obviously they like playing offense more than defense..

Lord knows I would, if I were in their shoes. It was easy to defend Clinton, with all his tangibly smart policies. I'd HATE to be the one to have to defend Chimpy, with all the horror that has been visited on this country as a result of HIS policies.

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adriennel Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 04:53 PM
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13. you can argue that the Titanic ain't sinking
but I'd still try and grab a spot in a life boat...the captain did not go down with the ship, so why should anyone else?
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DoctorMyEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 04:56 PM
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14. consciously or sub-consciously
it sounds as if they're just looking for a way to change their minds without ever having to admit that they were wrong.
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