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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 05:06 PM
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True or False: The real political battle is between the conservative and..
Edited on Thu Mar-04-04 05:09 PM by kentuck
the liberal media? The conservatives are aware of this battle but the liberals in the media, the few that remain, seem oblivious to the struggle. Because the Repubs understand that he who controls the propaganda system controls the minds of the majority of the citizenry.

So, the election this November is not really between the Repubs and Democrats, or Bush and Kerry, but it is between the left and right propaganda outlets in this country. Because the candidate that gets the blessing of the "media" will win, regardless of how incompetent or how great the other candidate might be on the issues. For historical context, just look no further than the last election.

Take for example the political talk shows on the cable networks. On FOX, CNN, MSNBC and wherever you surf, you will find conservatives controlling the subject matter to be discussed and how the subject is to be framed. Some blatant examples are those supposedly liberals like Juan Williams, Mara Liaison, Alan Colmes and almost every so-called liberal on cable, who are being used by the conservative propagandists as tools to further the right-wing agenda and they seem oblivious to their role in the political process of this nation.

Until the liberals in the media become aware of their roles as adversarial opponents of the right-wing, Democrats are predisposed to fight uphill battles. The conservatives, such as Novak and Brit Hume and others are perfectly aware that they are there to further the Republican cause. The so-called liberals in the media think they are there to give an unbiased, balanced report of the struggle between the two major Parties. In fact, they are only puppets of the right wingers that pay them to be on their TV shows.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 05:18 PM
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1. There is no more "news"
Its all razzle dazzle infotainment complete with top forty music, wildly swaying graphics, reporters throwing paper at the camera, bimbo valley doll chicks trying to read their pre-prepared remarks, all done as an excuse to "inform" the public, but which is all crap propaganda.

They have abdicated their roles as watchdogs of the government and none get my respect or my time. One exception is Bill Moyers who has been pissing in the wind against the tide of fascism so long that he is about to give it up and retire.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 05:30 PM
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2. There is no Liberal or Union Media ownership - unlike in the EU
So there is no liberal voice, and we have networks that think that if they are only right of center they are "fair"

As for context and opposing left of center interpretation that differs from right wing ownership point of view - the liberals that still remain in the media are not allowed to discuss this.

Watch CNN's Aaron Brown - who tries to run down the centerline - and note the times the voice in his ear jerks him to the right.

it is sad.

The rest of the media has been told to stick to the writers "storyline" - and say they are just too lazy to report that which differs from the story line.

it is real sad.

If really pressed they will tell you the facts that support the left of center view "do not have legs"(meaning their audience is not interested so they will not show or discuss)

so give up on US Media - and thank God for the EU and Canada where there still is some freedom.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:34 PM
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3. I think there are liberals but...
they are being used as pawns by the conservatives who are pushing the Repub agenda but the "liberals" have some type of idealized myth about bias and balance that prevents them from engaging the right wingers on their own terms...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:40 PM
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5. Liberal Media
The Big Lie that the Repugs keep repeating ad nauseum is that the Media is "Liberal". The sheep are brainwashed by the Big Lie. Yes, we are living in the real Twilight Zone.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:37 PM
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4. This is ONLY true
if the American people allow the talking heads to form their opinions for them. They could, if they chose, ignore the propaganda machine and think for themselves.

Sadly, they have shown no inclination to do that.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:41 PM
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6. Exactly !
And when the liberal side agrees with the right wing proposition, whatever it may be, what is the average listener supposed to think? He will believe the proposition to be true, whether it is or not...
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:54 PM
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7. That is certainly a Core Issue
The integirty and independence of the media must be restored! If it was all an illusion then it must be created in reality!

You are absolutely correct, kentuck. Put paid propagandists across from centrist or even leftist journalists trying to be good journalists and the propagandists will trumpet their lies unopposed EVERY TIME!

Hitler understood this, though he had no need for the sham (different countries, different customs)
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