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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:08 PM
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I think I'm gonna donate to the Bush campaign.
Hear me out.

I'm thinkin' I'll head over to georgewbush.com and donate 1 cent with my credit card.

Certainly the transaction has to cost them more than a penny, to say nothing of the thank-you note.

What's wrong with this plan? :shrug:
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:10 PM
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1. it's a great plan!
though it might buy you a visit from the guys that drive the black SUVs to deliver the thank you "note" in person.
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:10 PM
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2. I think 5$ is the min
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:11 PM
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3. Well, there's a blank field
for an "other" amount. :shrug:

Haven't tried it yet cuz I'm a big chikin...
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:13 PM
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7. Hey, let us know how it turns out.
If we all donate 1 cent...well, I'm sure they'd catch on.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:20 PM
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28. Hey I'll donate 17cents!!!
I already have my name on multiple * mailing lists and send back the envelope (Scripto over my info) filled w/ old mail and pennies. They have yet to catch on.....they're not too bright.

I like your idea and will utilize it as well.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:12 PM
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4. Interesting...
Could we theoretically bankrupt the Bush* campaign this way?

I wonder how many $0.01 donations it would take to spend $200,000,000.00 of their money.

If we estimate $0.50 per transaction total cost, we would have to make 400,000,000 donations. At $0.01 cost per transaction to us, that is $4,000,000.00 total in donations.

Do you think we could scrape together even a significant fraction of that? Try it and see if they even accept the donation first, of course.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:14 PM
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9. Hell I'm up for it
let me know if it works.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:04 PM
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40. That comes to about $100 per DUer
Want to have some fun after you make you 1000 one-cent donations?

take 200 of them at random - and dispute the charges.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 11:23 PM
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44. Oh my god, gonna die laughing
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:35 AM
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46. (spits coffee)
Ha ha ha ha!!! :D Hilarious!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:12 PM
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5. lol lol lol
:thumbsup:
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:13 PM
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6. Bartcop had a better idea send a check for one dollar it costs
about 13 dollars to process so you rob him of 12 bucks.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:13 PM
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8. Oooooooooooo, I like it.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:15 PM
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10. Even better!
At $12.00 net loss for them, this is merely $17,000,000.00 to bankrupt the campaign completely!

And as I said above, even a fraction of this would eliminate a big chunk of their 'warchest'!
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Gulf Coast J Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:18 PM
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11. I had read that before
I think by law they have to process and report every check sent to them. Unless they outsource the whole thing, it's got to cost more than a dollar to process it all.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:23 PM
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12. The are outsourced
Most major campaigns outsource check processing. I really don't know where the $12 per check processing come from. But it doesn't cost that much.

Most banks charge large accounts a per item processing fee, but it's not that much.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:54 PM
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20. if that's true
they just won't cash it then.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:21 PM
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OOOH, even better
will do
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:29 PM
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30. Throwing it away would cost them nothing.
That is what I would do.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:25 PM
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13. Well, I checked it out.
And the form had no problems whatsoever with a $0.01 donation. :D

...But the question remains, how much will the credit card companies charge them per transaction?
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JoeWang Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:06 PM
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15. At least 30 cents
At least 30 cents, plus around 2% of the transaction or more.

Wonder how long it will take them to catch on? Probably a while since the original contract web programmer lives in India and doesn't care one bit.

Then again, you may find your credit card number, SS#, DOB and address posted on a hacker web site in the near future.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:06 PM
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24. I out did you! It took my $.02
:evilgrin:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:33 PM
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31. This could be a thing...
who wants to register 2centsfordubya.com? :evilgrin:
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:38 PM
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32. Just checked, it's available. I might just snag it for a year!
:D
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:08 PM
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26. before getting in to this
tit for tat you know

what goes around comes around
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:58 PM
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14. Do you really want them to have your credit card number?
:evilgrin:
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:55 PM
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21. hey
honey they already have it with the partriot act!!!
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #21
33. You are probably right. But welcome to DU!!!
:D
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:27 PM
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16. come on, gang...
...we were mad when the freepers did this to Julie Hiatt Steele. They cost her several thousand dollars in credit card fees.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:32 PM
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17. Really?
I had no idea. :(
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #16
27. Well, what's wrong with a little tit for tat?
;-)
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 11:30 PM
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45. Aren't we talking about the RNC?
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:45 PM
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18. here's what i know
a PayPal transaction costs 3.1% of the amount, plus a $.31 flat fee. A standard credit card transaction is supposed to cost about half that. do the math.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:43 PM
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35. send in hard currency (pennies)
Send 500 pennies in a box mixed with sawdust to protect them.
Mix in some sand, and some motor oil to keep them from sticking
together.

Since the pennys will have to be counted and "tubed" before
depositing, and cleaning the pennys from the packaging could take
a while... :-) Labour is more valuable than money, burn their
labour.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:49 PM
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37. LOL. I like that idea too! But 500 pennies would be expensive to mail...
Better to wait until you can get hold of a postage-paid envelope you can tape on the box of pennies...then they get to pay.


;-)
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:46 PM
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19. heh yeah
but do you really want them having your name and address to send propaganda to? i'd hate to be on any list associated with being a bush supporter.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:57 PM
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23. Well, it'll cost them even more to mail junk to you..........
;-)
:eyes:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:56 PM
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22. write a check for .80$
This will put you on their mailing list. The "loss" to the GOP is efficiency, not in money.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:06 PM
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25. I might have a better idea...
and it might cost Bush more money. On talkleft.com there was a article telling people that the Bush website has a section were supporters can go to get help to write letters to their local newspapers. Supposely a person goes to this section puts in the zip code and a list of local newspapers comes up. At this point a person can write a letter and send it to the local newspaper. Apperently, the website cannot determine whether a person is a Bush supporter. Some liberal and Bush opponents have already tries it with success. I will come back with more information soon. You can also go to talkleft.com to see if the article is still there.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:21 PM
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29. Oh my! Karl Rove will give all your card #'s to Pat Robertson!
or the Psychic Hotline.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:41 PM
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34. I'm sorry. I just couldn't bring myself to contribute one cent even.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:45 PM
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36. Here's the email I just got for my 2 cent contribution:
Thank you for your contribution to Bush-Cheney '04 and personal support of the President and Vice President.

President Bush has brought dignity and honor to the Office of the President; he's guided our nation through challenging times. But there is still much to be done.

The President has set ambitious goals for the next four years. He's determined to strengthen our economy and create jobs; he's committed to strengthening our national security and expanding peace and freedom throughout the world.

To do that, he must win reelection. It may be months before the Democrats settle on a candidate and the President is officially re-nominated. But the work of re-electing President Bush must begin now. So thanks for your early support and generosity.

Sincerely,
Marc Racicot
Chairman, Bush-Cheney '04

PS: Forward this email to your friends and encourage them to make a contribution as well at:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:00 PM
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38. If you get mail from bush* /cheney 04 which includes postge paid evelope
for your contribution (like we got at our house) be sure to send something back to them so they have to give a little to the USPS. Me? I sent a bumper sticker: "Somebody else for president". Cost the campaign a wee bit of postage and the time for some campaign worker to open it up. Who knows, might even plant some seeds of thought.
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:04 PM
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41. You made my night havocmom
"Somebody else for President" !!! That is excellent!

Would have loved to see the face of who opened that!

:yourock:

Jax
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 11:09 PM
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42. why, thank you Jax
I see we have other common hobbies (besides basic hell raisni' and giving heartburn to shrubistas) LOL
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:01 PM
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39. Write Letters at Bush/s Expense
Here is the information you need to write letters to your local newspapers at Bush's expense.

From Long Story, Short Pier:

Billmon has uncovered the most glorious hack. It seems georgewbush.com has a really keen tool: enter your ZIP code, and it’ll bring up a list of your local papers. Type in the letter you wish to send to the editor(s), check off the papers in question, press the “send” button, and presto! You’ve siphoned off a tiny chip of his 200-million–dollar war chest and used it for truth, justice, and the American way. (If you’re at a loss, Billmon suggests you take the HRC or Lambda Defense Fund letters as boilerplate.)

What are you waiting for? Go! Go!

We'll be putting some great letters in the comments to this post which you can use for your letters. Feel free to add others in the comments that the rest of us can use. The part we like the best is that the Bush Campaign is paying for the funding of the technology to do this.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 11:12 PM
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43. I hope you plant on cancelling that credit card right after you
do that. Geez, why not post your checking account access codes as well?
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:39 AM
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47. Locking
The DU administration prefers that we not use DU to organize things like this.

Thank you for your cooperation
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