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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:57 PM
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Those initials
Some started using the JFK initials for John Forbes Kerry and I have seen both positive and negative reactions - on these boards, and, no doubt in the general public.

And I was thinking that we stopped defining our presidents by their initials for many years now. We can say, or write FDR, JFK, LBJ and the subject is clear with no need for further explanation.

How many would know who is RMN at a glance? or WJC? And I don't even know the middle names of Ford, Carter or Reagan. Bush has four names.. or five?

Sooooo what was special about the earlier presidents that others lack? Or is this the result of how we view the presidency itself?

Just an observation

P.S. - ran this through the spell checker. It recognized FDR, JFK and LBJ, but asked about the others....
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AngryYoungMan Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:01 PM
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1. Nixon's memoir was called "RN" ; we call our current President "W"
eom
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ogakor Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:03 PM
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2. Only JFK was JFK
The JFK, FDR, LBJ initials flow well off the tounge, whereas "Nixon" is easier to say than "RMN." But I sure don't blame Kerry for trying to wrap himself in Kennedy's cloak. Remember that great clip of a wide-eyed young Bill Clinton shaking JFK's hand?
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:29 PM
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8. That was a 'Vulcan mind-meld' of a sort, it seems to me. Welcome to DU
:D
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:11 PM
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3. Ford's was Rudolph
I forgot the others. I think Carter's started with an E.

I like "JK" for Kerry, but I hope the Repugs don't start calling him by his real family name - Kohn. Sounds too much like Con.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:16 PM
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4. James Earl Carter
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:22 PM
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5. Ronald Wilson Reagan
And Wilson was the most far sighted President there was.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:19 PM
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11. That's a very nice and dignified photo, thanks
Still, if someone would say, or write JEC, if that someone adds that this is a former president, most of us, after some thinking (using fingers of both hands) would eventually figure it out. But not if the "presidential" hint is missing.

While with FDR, JFK or LBJ we don't need any reminder
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:26 PM
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6. Somebody Jumped Down My Throat Here for Using "JFK"
for KERRY several months ago. I let it go, but they *are* the person's own initials. And why should somebody using his OWN initials be said to be "cloaking himself" in KENNEDY's aura. But it appears that popular culture has spoken and "JFK" will mean one person and no other. Thus, we leave the playing field to LIMBOsevic to define a Democratic party member as "John Effing KERRY".
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:28 PM
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7. I don't think it's a big deal either way. Doesn't "HST" ring a bell?
Maybe I'm just too old a phart....
;-)

But I'd give odds that if you give me the 3 initials of any prez I could identify them (admitting I don't know what Lincoln's or Washington's middle names were...)
heh
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:41 PM
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10. Which HST?
Harry S Truman or Hunter S Thompson?
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:41 PM
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14. I spoke with Hunter on the phone back in 1979. I am not kidding.
It is a very long story, but it hinges around a bunch of us sitting in my living room in Muskogee, Oklahoma (yes, that Muskogee) and we had all read "Fear & Loathing"

We actually managed to get his phone # in Colorado and called him up.
The details of the conversations are unfortunately buried in the cannabis-induced miasma surrounding the enterprise. I saved the phone bill for years but it has gone away.

;-)

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:21 PM
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12. I heard that the S did not stand for any name, just an "S"
Did Truman just decided to add himself a middle initial?
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:35 PM
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13. No, I think his mother did.
Strange
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KenLayedOff Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 09:34 PM
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9. If JFK can be used to win in November then what does it really matter?
JFK all the way!!!
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