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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:53 AM
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Will Bush "win" and the World as we know it end?
I am frequently called "stormcrow," "pessimist," "calamity howler" and a host of other durogatory names denoting my total lack of "Little Sammy Sunshine" attitudes and predictions.

All it takes to be this way is to minor in History. "Wars and rumors of wars" are a constant throughout our history as a "civilized" species, but that doesn't mean that the warning signs do not precede the coming disasters.

Will the "world" end if Bush retains power? Of course not, but in true "history repeats itself" fashion, Neo-Romanovs will breed Neo-Bolshevics, and revolutions will recur.

This is how my nightmare (which, by the way, I believe is very possible) unfolds:


"Tyler's Gawdawful Nightmare"

July 4th, 2006

From the World Services of the BBC on short-wave, we bring you our correspondent with the CBC in Windsor, Ontario, at the Canadian Border with the United States on the Detroit River.

Good Morning. On this, the 230th anniversary of the United States' Declaration of Independence, we can see the gutted and smoldering buildings of downtown Detroit.

Unlike the World Trade Center, foreign enemies have not crashed an aircraft into the five towers of the General Motors Center; the residents of Detroit have burned it themselves. It stands, gutted, and still smoldering after close to a week; one almost wishes it had collapsed like its sisters in New York: the sight is much more horrifying than the pile of rubble left after September 11th, 2001.

We are here today to witness the demolition of the Ambassador Bridge. Once a lovely suspension structure joining two nations in friendship, it is now a mortally wounded casualty of what the rest of the world is calling the Second American Civil War. In less than one hour, charges on the Canadian side of the bridge will sever the cables and drop what little is left of the roadbed into the Detroit River so that river traffic can pass without hazard.

What has brought this truly global tragedy to pass?

After the massive charges of fraud, the bitterly contested results of the 2004 presidential election were decided, in a strange almost déjà vu, by the 5 to 4 decision of the US Supreme Court for the incumbent, George W. Bush.

Almost immediately following the untimely suicide in the first week of January 2005 of Ruth Bader Ginsburg following diagnosis of a massive and terminal relapse of her cancer came the unprecedented simultaneous resignation of Chief Justice Rhenquist and Justice O' Connor. Their Immediate replacement by President Bush while the Congress was in its Inaugural Recess with the appointment of Judge Charles Pickering as Chief Justice seems to have triggered both the far Right and the far Left to start the ensuing conflict. Literally millions have died of violence, disease and starvation since that strange coincidental date, March 15, 2005, the Ides of March. The Revolution of 2005 had started.

After killings by local police forces and state National Guard acting in protection of city centers and food supplies, the well-armed Militant Militias attacked, joined by renegade Reservists, National Guard members and finally the well-armed general populace. With the mutiny of the American 6th fleet, now docked in various Australian and Far Eastern ports, the general disintegration of the Army was inevitable. The Marine Corps has held its own bases, awaiting the return of Federal Government to stability, and the Air Force has moved its resources to NATO in Europe. The 48 continental United States has descended into Chaos; only Alaska and Hawaii remain relatively unscathed. Other remnants of the Navy have occupied their coasts and maintain a tenuous order.

The Congress of the United States has been dissolved. The President has not been heard from in 6 weeks; rumors of his suicide abound. The entire world thanks God every day that the American Nuclear forces decided on their own to stand down and disable their weapons. The converse is much too horrifying to imagine.

Now the scattered places of calm; Denver, Salt Lake City, Nashville, and a score of other battered but mostly intact centers of population are no longer enough to keep the peace. Only last week, the city run radio station in St. Louis vanished from the airwaves, and amateur radio is now the only source on information from the entire Missouri/Kansas region. It is only a matter of time until the voices of these other cities shall fall silent.

Canada has accepted millions of refugees, numbers that have reached the staggering number of 7 million, over 30% of the original population of the country. The Prime Minister and the Governor General, acting on threat of a no confidence vote in Parliament, have this week finally closed the border. Refugees will not be returned if they arrive in Canada, but they will no longer be offered assistance to reach the border. Humanitarian efforts by the brave and generous Canadians toward their neighbors has been stretched to the limits, and paramilitary incursions by armed militias into Alberta have now made actions like this one in Windsor inevitable. This only leaves Mexico as a land route for refugees from the death throes of the United States government.

It now approaches noon, the time the charges at the Ambassador Bridge will detonated; let us observe silence for a moment to mourn the end of an era.

You have been listening to the World Service of the BBC, on short wave from London.




I have this nightmare on a regular basis now, with some variations.

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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:06 AM
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1. I don't have any nightmares....
just the cold hard truths and facts staring me in the face everytime
I read the news on the Internet.
Just accept it and look at ways to minimize your exposure to the
eventual paradigm shift...
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:07 AM
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2. That sounds about like my nightmares too...
You are not alone.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:13 AM
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4. OH, CANADA...
I frequently plead with my Northern relatives and friends NOT to drop the bridges until we get there.

This country was started along a good path until rather recently: I chart one of the mile markers on the road down hill to be the hue and cry raised over Hillary Clinton's fairly moderate healthcare plan. That's about the time I started to worry.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:15 AM
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6. considering where I live...
I'd have to jump to Mexico first.
I have friends that live in Mexico City.
I'm sure they'd take us in until we could get somewhere else.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:18 AM
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7. "Is there gas in the car?"
"Yes, there's gas in the car..."

Kid Charlemagne, Steely Dan



Our van is kept topped off at all times. We can make it to our place in Canada on less than 2 hours notice.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:26 AM
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9. Dallas is a little farther away from Mexico than San Antonio
where we used to live. But an 8 hour drive would get us to the border.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:10 AM
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3. The world as we knew it
never existed.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:14 AM
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5. Just a cliche...
Sort of like "land of the free, home of the brave..."
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:28 AM
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10. I know. But two important lessons of the last three years for me
have been that (1) things are much worse than I'd ever thought - and I'd thought them pretty bad already - and (2) they'd been that long before the Supreme Court handed down its 5-4 ruling.

America, land of the free, yadda yadda, has been a fiction since the post-war establishment of the National Security State. Bush's administration may be the most radical and illegitimate Americans have seen, but it stands in continuity with other administrations which practiced high crimes as tools of statecraft, and suffered little consequence.

Bush is an exceptionally bad president, but he's not an exception. His ascendancy is simply what comes from the last 50 years of US history.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:35 AM
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11. In 100% agreement.
I just figure that if he somehow retains the presidency, that the reaction will make what happened under Tsar Nicholas II look like quilting bee in rural Iowa.
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:23 AM
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8. Have you ever read "The Fifth Sacred Thing" by Starhawk?
You'd recognize some of your themes.

While it's unlikely that your precise vision will come to pass,
I'm quite afraid that some analagous vision will, indeed, come
to overtake this country in the not-to-distant future.

The culture wars are far too deeply imbedded in the American
psyche to allow us to stand as a unified country. It'd be far
better for all of us if we simply accepted this and peaceably
agreed to go our separate ways, but I don't see that happening
either, so I think it may well come to a multi-polar civil war,
much as Yugoslavia exploded once the over-arching Communist
government was removed.

One of the saddest moments (for me) in The Fifth Sacred
Thing
is when the (liberal) inhabitants of San Francisco
decide to "blow the bridges" to prevent incursions by the
Fundamentalists attacking from the North and East (and South,
but there's no way to stop them from that direction).

Atlant
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:39 AM
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13. Futurist predictions
suffer too much from ideal purity and simplicity, the unknown and the murk of human nature. The principles and patterns however suggest the degree of suffering and evils to come are understated in your scenario. In fact, they may be inevitable already whether Bush gets to finish them off or not.

You can destroy a work of art, rob a bank and lie quite easily. Building a civilization that way is rather difficult and dealing with real crises impossible and hindered under such activities.

Businessmen with knowledge and concern for the future and their own world who nonetheless simply let greed run amok will destroy any system of organization and power they think will seal the deal. Ignored crises like population growth, disease, environmental change or just plain poisoning, and democratic, cultural pressures not only won't be controlled by any draconian tyrannical measures, but are outside their immediate main interests. That is not on their main plate anymore than concern for their own "souls" or the lives or well-being of anyone.

The "World" has not been turned upside down by the American Revolution, but the Revolution, subverted by Mammonite faith in the beneficence and wisdom of material misers and money elites has been flipped "Right-side up" now in the throes of the largest Ponzi scam of human history. Since the alternatives are weak, non-existent and unlikely to halt ALL the major downslides we are in for very bad times, which I hope for your sleeping habits, are unimaginable.

Which bad times will be blamed on Bill Clinton.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:47 AM
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14. You underestimate my imagination.
I've got some DOOZIES swimming around in there.

For example, an auditing instructor from an outside contractor has been here in the plant off and on over the last 6 months.

This is a highly educated and intelligent guy, but his background is Air Force, Missile Silo officer.

HE and most of his kind, are indoctrinated that the President is RIGHT, and his orders are never questioned. This is how you get people who are willing to push a button that kills 20 million with one shot. He thinks Bush is GREAT, he's RIGHT, and if he does not retain the office, then WE are DOOMED.

Can you imagine what kind of nightmares THAT little association has triggered? Needless to say, while everyone else in the house has been sleeping, I've been accomplishing A LOT of very quiet home improvement.
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californiahippie Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:36 AM
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12. Let's hope not
Whatever has yinged must yang my friend, things have got to turn around soon.
There will be happiness again in Nottingham, a pox on the phony king of England!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:41 PM
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15. The Ambassador bridge was a favorite.
I used to cycle across it when i wanted to ride in a safe environment. You know, the border guards never checked my water bottle for contraband.

I got searched nearly every time I crossed in a car.
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