Who would Kerry appoint for Homeland Security Secretary?

[mot78]

The Dept. of Homeland Security will be in dire need of someone smarter than that twit Tom Ridge. Who should President Kerry appoint when he's elected?

[bucknaked]

1. Not sure, but here's hoping he'd rename it!

"Homeland Security"

Sounds like some rent-a-cop agency from BFE, Iowa!

God Damn! Those Republicans and their tacky names for shit. "Operation Just Cause" "...Enduring Freedom" etc.

[LibDemAlways]

2. Clark knows something about security.

If he's not vp, this might be a good fit. I only hope Kerry will do what's necessary to change the name of the dept. to Dept. of Domestic Security or U.S. Security. We need to rid ourselves of the Nazi-sounding "homeland" and, the sooner the better.

[tom_paine]

3. No counting chickens before they hatch!

Plus, I'm sorry to say (because I'll be donating all the $$$ I can afford and my time as well to the Kerry Campaign) Mr. Kerry seems to be retreating to his non-confrontational wishy-washy ways since Dean dropped out.

Not to mention the customary Bushevik (AP this time was the disinformation instrument) Poll which comes out to contradict previous polls which had Kerry leading 52-43 and 50-45 and such.

This has been a frightening pattern they applied to Cleland in GA and Mondale in MN and Mary Landrieu in LA almost lost, but she won because she actually won by 13-14% probably (which showed up as a 2% sqeuaker in the "results").

Allow me to show you how it works (using Landrieu, who battled back from ballot-stuffing and blocking and electronic tampering to win:

1) In the weeks leading up to the LA special election, all polls show Landrieu up roughly 50-33% or something close.

2) Single contradictory polls comes out, showing Terrell (Landrieu's opponent) winning 50-49%. This poll, naturally, is put out by a Gingrich-affiliated organization.

3) Landrieu barely wins 51-49%. Guess all 100% of the undecideds went for Terrell (and Saxby Chambliss and Norm Coleman and...)

When considering the state of Imperial Amerika, this is quite a frightening trend and I see it in this AP (a thoroughly infiltrated organization) "poll" which is released to swftly contradict the three or 4 other polls showing Kerry winning by 5-9%.

I see a Soviet-style pattern here. Since the Busheviks are essentially Free-Market Soviets, I am disturbed. And frightened. And enraged.

[DuctapeFatwa]

4. Maybe Daniel Pipes. Reach out to the opposition. Gracious gesture

If he can talk to Pipes and get a commitment before November, he'll have the election sewn up.

[tom_paine]

6. You're kidding right?

:crazy: :silly: :silly:

[DuctapeFatwa]

8. A lot of folks have a very unrealistic idea of what "beat bush" means

I wrote a screed about this a loooong time ago, way before Iowa, saying basically that once there was a nominee, whoever it was, people had better be prepared to hear some different things coming from their guy than "the pretty words that seduced" them of some butterfrosting language to that effect.

I've also written a lot on what "beat bush" means, and the importance of having a clear understanding of precisely what it is you want to win.

There are essentially 2 ways to beat bush. One, which appears to be the road not taken, would have been for the party to throw everything behind a candidate who would get non-voters excited, who would effectively commit to nothing less than a revolution, to break the decades-old pattern of both parties fighting over the same little gaggle of voters, the majority of whom are quite happily married to the status quo. (see http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=357192 )

The other option, which it looks like is the only one left, is for Kerry to study up on George Wallace in 1958. Supporting the crusade isn't enough. To beat bush, Kerry will have to resolve not to let bush out-terrorist him.

Like I said, it's good to be clear on just what you're setting out to "win."

[tom_paine]

10. Good points and truly said

Though I hope your assessment of Kerry is wrong.

[DuctapeFatwa]

12. It's not him I'm assessing. It's the voters.

and to an extent, whether his supporters have realized what they are trying to "win," and when they do, will they have the stomach for it.

[tom_paine]

13. The problem here is the utter untrustowrthiness of Imperial Amerikan

"voting".

Are we sure that Kerry was indeed the winner? Can we be sure of anything anymore that has to do with Imperial Amerikan "voting"?

No. I would say that would have to be a #1 priority, restoring people's faith in a corrupt and moribund and Third World "voting" systems. No matter how high-priced and snazzy those Touchscreen Machines are, they are Third World all the way like much of the rest of Imperial Amerika.

[DuctapeFatwa]

15. LOL Actually some of those "third world voting systems" have some merit

One thing I especially like is that in India, for example, voting takes place over a period of a week or ten days. That would never fly here, though, due to the possibility of an inordinate number of poor people who might cast a ballot, although the faith traditions of the poor are less likely to include a strong belief in the political process than those of their more affluent brothers :)

[WilliamPitt]

5. Dennis Kucinich

:)

[tom_paine]

7. I like it, William!

:toast: :toast:

[blm]

9. I think the most qualified is Gary Hart.

And Hart is one of the few I would TRUST in that position.

[SoCalDem]

11. Homeland Security is a redundancy, and needs to go bye-bye

We have the Defense Department.. That's their function..DEFENSE of our country.. They are currently used as Department of WAR..

All that's necessary, and dismantling the HS would net enough money to do it, is a complete new computer system that integrates the CIA,FBI and any other "spook" agencies, so that they can keep up with each other..

We need that extra money to start sending the best and brightest to school to learn about middle eastern and asian languages, cultures and history, so that we don;t get caught flatfooted again..

Any extra savings should be distributed to the states and cities, because THAT is where the need will(hope not) be needed first and fastest..

The Homeland Security was just a "make work" job for Hamhock, since he was not allowed to be VP..

[magnolia]

14. Martha Stewart????

After she's exonerated of course. She's smarter than the twit. She could keep the Homeland safe...and attractive.