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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:58 AM
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Stern talking about bin Laden family
He's going to town on how one of the first things Bush* did was get the bin Laden family out of NY.

He's going to town on that!

Plus, some wingnut called in yesterday claiming Bush*'s SATs were higher than Gore or Clinton. Howard laid that to rest as best he could - said that Bush*'s were in the 1200's and Gores in the 1400's. Clintons were unavailable, but Stern made the point that unlike getting into Yale, your daddy can't get you a Rhodes scholarship!

Go Howard Go!
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:03 AM
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1. wish i could listen
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 08:04 AM by soundgarden1
but Im in Orlando. im glad he's harping on the OBL family point though. is there a more shining example of Bush's corruption?
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:04 AM
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2. hell hath frozen over -
i'm actually supporting howard stern. good gawd, what's next - pigs flying? stay tuned.....
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:17 AM
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3. Anyone have a list of radio stations that he is still on?
Any streaming audio sites?
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ODBPROS Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:25 AM
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4. Stern
Stern forbids streaming audio. But you can check out KOAM.com for all stern information. There should still be some links to his passionate diatribes supporting the war with Iraq.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:37 AM
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5. LOL...but things have changed!!!!
it's interesting that this is the approach he is using to cover up his lack of talent, now that the FCC is cracking down, and he can't rely on his standard, juvenile, beevis and butthead x2 humor.

must be tough for the king of all media to have to face the fact that he can't compete with people who have the talent to be funny or even interesting if he can't rely on pimping out women in exchange for laughs.

btw...for thoses who are buying his line that the fcc is on him for what he said about bush, what was his excuse for the previous fines?
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:47 AM
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14. He's still on 97.1 in Detroit
I guess they're not a clear channel station
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:13 PM
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21. Sattelite Radio?
Is Stern on Sirius Radio?
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shtinkycat Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:37 AM
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6. is it confirmed
that Shrub's SAT's were in the 1200's? That's much higher than I'd expect, given his failure to grasp his native language. Any references on this?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:43 AM
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7. I'm pretty sure...
... I've heard that before, but I don't have any references.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:52 AM
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8. How much do you wanna bet
that Daddy hired someone to take the test for Jr. or that he cheated off someone else?
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Jack The Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:16 PM
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22. It has to be some kind of snow job - Shrub couldn't score a 1200
Puh-leeze - the man is barely coherent. From all accounts I've read, he was a mediocre student, and is rabidly anti-intellectual to this day.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:56 AM
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19. that had to be one of the first years of the SAT.
when did he graduate? 68?

i doubt it was then the fearsome beast it has grown into.

1310, but i was high.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 09:00 AM
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9. It reminds me of when Lenny Bruce was arrested for indecency
His shows after that were pretty much just him reading from court transcripts. I haven't listened to Stern in about a decade but I had to turn him on recently to hear what he was saying about Bush. He's trying to do other stuff occasionally but the show is basically about the FCC and Bush. Reminds me of Lenny Bruce.
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 09:49 AM
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10. I love it - Bin Laden Business connection and exploiting 911
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 09:52 AM by BEFOREATHOUGHT
Howard- "On 911 he was busy reading a book to kids when people we're dieing"
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 09:55 AM
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11. Wingnuts are so pathetic
"Stop saying Bush is dumb. He isn't. He is really very smart."

These people are pathetic, sycophantic losers.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:09 AM
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12. God Can You Imagine If The Clintons Had The Bin Laden Connections?
People would have nailed them to the cross on it...as it is...I don't think most people even KNOW that the Bin Ladens were they only ones allowed to fly on Sept. 12!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:41 AM
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13. You can e-mail Howard
at http://www.krockradio.com/feedback (select Howard Stern Show from the dropdown menu). Send him some encouraging words, and links to any web sites or stories you think he ought to see!

:headbang:
rocknation
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:48 AM
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15. The Rhodes Scholarship point is very smart.
Coming from the family, schools, and opportunities Bush came from, it's ridiculous that his SATs weren't higher.

Getting a Rhodes Scholarship, however, isn't something you get by any route OTHER than hard work.

That's the big difference between Bush and Clinton. Willingness to work hard.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:52 AM
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18. American Dynasty makes that point very well....
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 11:53 AM by leftchick
I don't have the book handy for the exact quote, I lent it to a friend. Mr.Philips says that unlike many families with their sort of wealth, no one in the Bush family aspired to any sort of higher calling like Physician, Attorney, Educator or Scientist. For generations they all used public funds to increase their wealth.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:08 PM
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27. So in actuality, they are.....
the ultimate welfare recipients.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 04:56 PM
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28. exactly....
Welfare for the Rich! Ain't capitalism grand?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 05:19 PM
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30. SAT Scores Aren't What They Used to Be
People didn't start getting SAT coaches, etc., until the 1980s.

If Bush scored in the 1200s with no coaching, that's not bad. OTOH, if he scored in the 1200s with coaching and test-taking strategy books, that's not so good.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:52 AM
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16. Oh baby!
Just keep getting the news out there. Stories like this need to be hit again and again. Sooner or later enough people will wake up and listen. Stern is the perfect voice to get the word out to the common man.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:39 AM
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17. That's it--I'm bringing a radio to work tomorrow!
If I can't listen online, I'll just have to do it the old fashioned way, LOL!

I love it that Howard is looking below the surface and not just doing parodies and calling Bush and the FCC names. They don't like him talking about sex? Okay, he's obliged them. Happy now?

:headbang:
rocknation
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skjpm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:00 PM
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20. I liked Stern when he said that McCartney's concert was the best ever
Being a huge Macca fan myself, I was glad to see a convert. He even said he liked some of the Wings songs. So maybe that's when the change began.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:18 PM
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23. Howard is now my hero - thorns and all!
:bounce:
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:21 PM
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24. THIS is one big thing Stern should be telling his audience about
He should tie together the religious right's agenda with what's really behind the Constitutional Amendment and the fact the next president will select maybe THREE S. C. justices.

First: A post I just took from Beam_Me_Up:

"Do you believe the Federal Government should ban birth control?

The Religious Right does.

Do you believe abortion should be made illegal?

The Religious Right does.

Do you believe sexual activity between two adults should be limited to opposite genders?

The Religious Right does.

Do you believe the Federal Government should regulate what you do with another consenting adult in the privacy of your own bedroom?

The Religious Right does.

Do you believe sexual activity between two unmarried adults should be made a crime?

The Religious Right does.

Do you believe that sexual activity between two married adults should be limited to procreative purposes only?

The Religious Right does.

Make no mistake about it: Straights, you're next.

--------
THE FMA AS TROJAN HORSE: Here's an email from a Republican lawyer who sees the religious right amendment as a device to do far more than just deny gay couples constitutional protection. The amendment is just the beginning of the religious right agenda:

Now that opponents and proponents of gay marriage are all riled about the FMA its time to talk about the true impact of including a definition of marriage in the Constitution. The potential impact of inclusion of the FMA will effect every American straight or gay because the FMA is not about gay marriage, it is a dangerous Trojan Horse that could completely redefine the powers of the federal government. As an attorney who is researching this issue, let me explain to the best of my ability, why I haven’t been sleeping well since Tuesday.

Under the Constitution of the United States there is no express right to privacy, rather this right to be free from excessive government interference in our personal lives has arisen from Supreme Court precedent that cites the lack of regulation of intimate relationships and the protections of the bill of rights as the basis for an inference of the right to privacy. The right to privacy, according the Supreme Court is found in the penumbras and emanations of these two factors. A shadow of a right, very delicate and now threatened.

By including a provision regulating the most intimate of relationships into the Constitution, the traditional analysis that the court has used to limit government power will be fundamentally changed and the right to privacy, if it is not destroyed completely, will be severely curtailed. As a result, decisions like Roe v. Wade, (Abortion), Griswold v. Connecticut (Birth Control), Lawrence v. Texas (Private Sexual Acts), will all be fair game for re-analysis under this new jurisprudential regime as the Constitutional foundation for those decisions will have been altered. A brilliant strategy really, with one amendment the religious right could wipe out access to birth control, abortion, and even non-procreative sex (as Senator Santorum so eagerly wants to do).

This debate isn’t only about federalism, it’s about the reversal of two hundred years of liberal democracy that respects individuals. So why isn’t anyone talking about this aspect of it?

With luck, this agenda will be revealed as this amendment is discussed and debated. The most important thing to remember is who is behind this amendment: Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Gary Bauer, Robert Bork, Rick Santorum. For them, gays are just the beginning, the soft targets before the real battle. Memo to straights: you're next.
http://www.andrewsullivan.com/index.php?dish_inc=archives/2004_02_22_d... "


Second: He should tell his audience the next president will probaby pick THREE Supreme Court justices. I heard Ted Kennedy say that this weekend.

His audience is young and they need to know what the agenda of the right is. They might care if someone explained it to them.

I emailed to Stern about the justices, but I suppose he must get thousands and thousands of emails a day.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:06 PM
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26. wow - that is so true, and so scary - the FMA threatens privacy rights
for everyone, gay and straight.

The FMA will be an addition to the constitution that specifically deals with private conduct - changing the constitutional analysis of all issues dealing with a right to privacy...

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itcfish Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:46 PM
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25. A Few Corporate Media Owners
Control and censor our media. If I remember correctly did'nt Ted Kennedy fight this starting with Rupert Murdoch and Murdoch made it his business to ridicule Kennedy at every turn. What happened? and Who let it happen?
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 05:13 PM
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29. ClearChannel & Michael Powell have really messed up this time!
This is so sweet. These boneheads have motivated Stern to tear down Bush at every opportunity. I loved his quote that Powell is "freaked out" over what he has unleashed!
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