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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:14 AM
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Today's DU front page, Gore VS Bush misses the obvious, as usual!
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So Bush beat Gore because Bush ran on his record - and Gore let him get away with it, acting as if Bush's record in Texas had nothing worthy of criticism and the man was a bipartisan statesman. <end snip>

BULLSHIT!

What is it with these revisionist opinions of Gore/Bush 2000?

The most dominant fact of the 2000 Presidential campaign is that Gore, at the beginnning of the campaign was 12 to 15 points behind George Dubya Bush in the polls and not only came back from that deficit but ended up beating Bunnypants by 540,000 nationwide votes! 540,000 votes!

On top of the he BEAT Dubya in a State that was controlled by his Brother and the most corrupt Sec. of State (K. Harris) in the history of this country!

Oh..and one more on top of that... He garnered more votes than any Democrat in the history of er..Democrats!

I'm sick and tired of reading about how poorly Gore did in the campaign.... I am sick and tired of folks saying that he ran away from Bill Clinton..First off it's nonsense...Secondly, it was Clinton fatigue that put him in the hole in the first place. Gore Dug himself out of that hole and kicked ass... The numbers don't lie!
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:18 AM
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1. but the whole point of the article
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 08:18 AM by soundgarden1
was to express how unnecessarily close it was. If Gore had just tore chimp's head off in the debate, there would be no need to for it to come down to a state governed by chimp's brother.

Of course i say that because Im an embittered Floridian.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:25 AM
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3. But wait
It's like 2 teams in the Superbowl and one team is a 2 touchdown underdog but manages to win the damn thing with a field goal... Are you going to critisize the underdog just because they won by a Field Goal?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:24 AM
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2. agree
further he did it with total attack from media they were the ones so very pissed off at clinton that he got off, and bush didnt run on his record in texas, he lied thru out about what he did do, took credit for what he didnt and attacked gore throughout the campaign. bush ran on a made up story adn no one did a thing about it.

and then yes to all you say..........
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:27 AM
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4. Yah... The Media Fucking Ho's had a great part in the campaign!
Go to Somerby at the Howler for info on that!
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:46 AM
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5. Thanks for pointing this out
Gore went after Bush's record mercilessly. Why is Gore being blamed for the fact that the media did not put much emphasis on that part of the campaign?

And it is absolutely true that Gore was fighting from behind the whole time, except for a brief period after the Dem convention. And on top of that, he won!

--Peter
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LoneStarLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:57 AM
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6. The Numbers Don't Lie But Neither Does The End Result
I'm sick and tired of reading about how poorly Gore did in the campaign.... I am sick and tired of folks saying that he ran away from Bill Clinton..First off it's nonsense...Secondly, it was Clinton fatigue that put him in the hole in the first place. Gore Dug himself out of that hole and kicked ass... The numbers don't lie!

And neither does the end result. We've had three years of George W. Bush as president, not Al Gore. The numbers don't lie, but we learned in 2000 that the numbers don't matter when you can run a banana republic style extortion campaign to get your way with the Supreme Court and a compliant state's administration.

The numbers don't lie, but we've also learned that disgustingly enough the numbers don't always matter.

This is like blaming the refs for "deciding" a game. The safest way to keep the outcome out of the hands of the refs is to play a better game. Don't let it be close enough to be dragged into a compliant state administration or the court system. Campaign in a manner that leads to a decisive victory instead of multiple recounts and a judicially-decided victory.

I don't see how discussing how Gore could have run a better campaign that would have made the Supreme Court and the Florida Secretary of State irrelevant in deciding the outcome of the election is revisionist. In fact, we need to look critically at these kinds of things to insure precisely that we do not run another close election, that run a decisive election that will kick President Cornelius' red-tailed ass out of the White House and his pack of corporate whoring bigoted howler monkeys out of the Senate.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:15 PM
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7. Play a better game?
Ya see... that's the kind of comments that have me scratching my head. Coming from a 15 point deficit to get 540,000 more votes than your opponant isn't playing a better game? AND throw on the behavior of the Media Whores in election 2000.... Gore kicked ass!
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:27 PM
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8. Yes, and Florida was never really that close -
97,000 mostly black Floridians never got to vote. 10,000 Palm Beachers contending with Teresa LePores trick ballot. Voting irregularities all over the place, counting absentee ballots that were mailed after the end of the election. Gore was robbed of close to 100,000 votes in Florida. The felon list OR Palm Beach OR the rest of the irregularities - if any ONE of those things was not an issue, Gore easily took Florida by thousands and thousands of votes.
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chimpy the poopthrower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:38 PM
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9. Plus, Florida wasn't the only state with problems.
Minorities were kept from voting in many states. Tennessee, for example, probably had worse problems than Florida.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:56 PM
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10. Bush's record since 2000 is identical to his record in Texas
and what great parallels could be drawn between the two. Someone please, please, please make a commercial about the Texas Miracle and No Child Left Behind. It's a no-brainer and is begging to be done.

He has a solid record now of not delivering and reversing policies that are good for ordinary people. Kerry should hammer away at this for all its worth.
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