This is the scariest article I've ever seen

[ewagner]

Take a few minutes to read this.

Thanks to the great people at Buzzflash

<http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/03/far04007.html>

[wtmusic]

1. Yep

And it all boils down to media mergers. With a free, independent press the truth has a chance.

[Killarney]

2. That's what scares me the most about the right.

:(

We need to get them out of power.

[NeonLX]

3. Us lefty Christians have to organize against this.

I don't want "the state" mucking around with my religion, and vice-versa.

These right-wing funnymentalists are just nuts--the American Taliban.

[liberalhistorian]

6. Exactly!

This is one liberal Christian who will not allow the fundie fascist wingnut theocratic nutballs to take over my religion and the country with their warped, twisted, distorted, bastardized version of Christianity. They are, indeed, the American Taliban.

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. Can't we all just get along?

Well, no, not according to those guys.

http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/liberalchristians.htm

[rasputin1952]

35. I agree...

these people are anti-christs, they need to be dealt with, and shown as the hypocrites they are.

O8)

[sinkingfeeling]

4. The very reason I will buy a one-way ticket out of here if

the BFEE is put back in office in November. Thanks for the heads-up.

[Imalittleteapot]

5. I'm going out on a limb

and sending this link to all of the "old school" Republican conservatives that I know. They probably won't read it. Most of them are in denial about what's going on in our country.

[Romulus]

7. Holy moly

I remember reading about Rusdoony, but I never realized just how entrenched his allies are in our governmental system.

That is scary!

And to think, I am currently in the middle of reading The Handmaid's Tale? Truth stranger than fiction? :scared:

[Mari333]

8. and its happening in small towns like mine too

christian dominionism...
http://www.charactercities.org/meet.asp
http://archive.aclu.org/news/1999/w090299a.html
http://www.kimray.com/About/Profile.html
http://www.iblp.org/iblp/
http://www.liberty1st.org/cfirst.aspx
http://www.biblicalexaminer.org/w200203.html
http://www.liberty1st.org/never_judge.asp
http://www.midwestoutreach.org/02-Information/02-OnlineReference/02-Unorthod
oxyGuide/105-IKnowSomething/Gothard-IBLP/Allen-IssuesOfConcern.html
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/ctfgc9-98.html
also check out http://www.yuricareport.com

[TahitiNut]

10. "Gott Mit Uns"

It has never been hyperbole to make this allusion. When theocrats, autocrats, and plutocrats align, the targets are democrats and fascism is the objective.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

14. we got mittens, too

was the british reply.

[ixion]

11. absolutely scary

There have been several articles on this over the past few weeks, and I'm glad to see this issue finally taken seriously. albeit 20 years late. Perhaps too late, but hopefully not. Anyone who considers themself to be a independent thinker should take this movement seriously. These people have every intention of 'cleansing' anyone who doesn't buy into their fairy tale.

It's ironic, isn't it? Satan is in the religious right, and yet they claim to be fighting satan. Best guess is that these are the people who will bring on an apocalypse through self-fullfilling prophecy.

The mind boggles at the hypocrisy. :crazy:

[ixion]

12. more links on this subject

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x38829


The Despoiling of America

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=34888



Original story:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5646.htm

[ithacan]

32. www.TheocracyWatch.org

another great site, detailing with lots of info how the Religious Right has hijacked the Republican Party: http://www.TheocracyWatch.org/

This helps explain that the current GOP cares nothing for democracy or justice or rights, but is dead set on taking over and shoving its agenda down our throats.

It's a theocratic attitude of, we're right and good, they're wrong and evil, so whatever we do, however we do it, is justified...

[Tommy_Douglas]

13. Annointed with cooking oil?

Bwaahahaha... What a bunch of retards.

[ewagner]

16. The obvious cooking oil joke:

Is that why his brain is fried? :evilgrin:

[BR_Parkway]

17. I would have expected crude, since they seem so addicted n/t

[Beam Me Up]

15. STRAIGHTS: You're Next

Do you believe the Federal Government should ban birth control?

The Religious Right does.

Do you believe abortion should be made illegal?

The Religious Right does.

Do you believe sexual activity between two adults should be limited to opposite genders?

The Religious Right does.

Do you believe the Federal Government should regulate what you do with another consenting adult in the privacy of your own bedroom?

The Religious Right does.

Do you believe sexual activity between two unmarried adults should be made a crime?

The Religious Right does.

Do you believe that sexual activity between two married adults should be limited to procreative purposes only?

The Religious Right does.

Make no mistake about it: Straights, you're next.

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THE FMA AS TROJAN HORSE: Here's an email from a Republican lawyer who sees the religious right amendment as a device to do far more than just deny gay couples constitutional protection. The amendment is just the beginning of the religious right agenda:

Now that opponents and proponents of gay marriage are all riled about the FMA its time to talk about the true impact of including a definition of marriage in the Constitution. The potential impact of inclusion of the FMA will effect every American straight or gay because the FMA is not about gay marriage, it is a dangerous Trojan Horse that could completely redefine the powers of the federal government. As an attorney who is researching this issue, let me explain to the best of my ability, why I haven’t been sleeping well since Tuesday.

Under the Constitution of the United States there is no express right to privacy, rather this right to be free from excessive government interference in our personal lives has arisen from Supreme Court precedent that cites the lack of regulation of intimate relationships and the protections of the bill of rights as the basis for an inference of the right to privacy. The right to privacy, according the Supreme Court is found in the penumbras and emanations of these two factors. A shadow of a right, very delicate and now threatened.

By including a provision regulating the most intimate of relationships into the Constitution, the traditional analysis that the court has used to limit government power will be fundamentally changed and the right to privacy, if it is not destroyed completely, will be severely curtailed. As a result, decisions like Roe v. Wade, (Abortion), Griswold v. Connecticut (Birth Control), Lawrence v. Texas (Private Sexual Acts), will all be fair game for re-analysis under this new jurisprudential regime as the Constitutional foundation for those decisions will have been altered. A brilliant strategy really, with one amendment the religious right could wipe out access to birth control, abortion, and even non-procreative sex (as Senator Santorum so eagerly wants to do).

This debate isn’t only about federalism, it’s about the reversal of two hundred years of liberal democracy that respects individuals. So why isn’t anyone talking about this aspect of it?

With luck, this agenda will be revealed as this amendment is discussed and debated. The most important thing to remember is who is behind this amendment: Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Gary Bauer, Robert Bork, Rick Santorum. For them, gays are just the beginning, the soft targets before the real battle. Memo to straights: you're next.
http://www.andrewsullivan.com/index.php?dish_inc=archives/2004_02_22_dish_archive.html#107783629136536853

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

18. I'm going to steal this if you don't mind

Also, you should maybe send this to Buzzflash and some other pages. Never thought I'd listen to Andy, but he is right about this, and your list spells it out so clearly.

[Beam Me Up]

25. I want EVERYONE to "steal" this

Please, the more we circulate ideas like this the better for us all.

[Arbustosux]

19. I think its ironic....

we are trying to force democracy on countries that desire a theocracy, yet here at home, a theocracy is trying to be be forced on our democracy...

you can just taste the irony....

[ixion]

20. kick

:kick:

[Solomon]

21. They are just heightening the contradictions in christianity which will

lead to it's further erosion. In other words, not only will it not work, but it will serve to hasten the demise of christianity, (as we presently know it).

[KansDem]

22. This further explains Bush as POTUS candidate...

"Of course, there have always been preachers on the margins of the religious right thundering on about the end of the world," Dreyfuss writes. "But it's doubtful that such a fanatic believer has ever had such a direct pipeline to the White House. Five years ago, as Bush was gearing up his presidential campaign, he made a little-noticed pilgrimage to a gathering of right-wing Christian activists, under the auspices of a group called the Committee to Restore American Values. The committee, which assembled about two dozen of the nation's leading fundamentalist firebrands, was chaired by LaHaye."

As I recall, Bush didn't participate in the usual campaign activities (i.e., GOP primary debates). Instead, he was cloistered and brought out on "special occasions" (carefully scripted public viewings), leaving the dirty work of promoting BushBaby to advisers, their operatives, and the media. I believe the general atmosphere was "No other Republican need apply."

So BushBaby "won" with the "help" (influence and connections) of x-ian fundies and (oil) corporations. A strong mix...

[OneBlueSky]

23. kick . . . this is the bottom line of the Bush administration . . .

it's what underlies everything that they do, and it is indeed scary . . . they want a radical right Biblical theocracy in this country, and are willing to export death and violence to the four corners of the Earth to get it . . . more than anything, this is why we MUST win in November . . . to get these crazies out of the White House and out of control of our country . . .

[robertpaulsen]

24. Just as scary as reading about Peak Oil...

which I just found out about this week. Too many apocalyptic visions for one week for my blood. If the world as we know it comes to an end, it will not be because of God, it will be because of fucked up people. Or as George Carlin said, "Save the fucking planet? The planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE! We're going away!"

[Demonaut]

26. just read it, death in Gods name...............got to renew my passport

[thingfish]

27. Does the Babylon connection explain why Bush was so eager to invade Iraq?!

It certainly wasn't the WMB (Weapons of Massive Bullshit).

[xang-chi]

28. wow

Ok, that's serioustly scary to read. It shows some of the biggest causeses to reasons why the United States is so hated.

[DemBones DemBones]

29. Hmm. . . perhaps we need to find out

who this Mike Pence is.

"As the Washington Times recently reported, Rep. Mike Pence, (R-IN) said that Mr. DeLay's decision to set his own legislative agenda "signals the dynamics of the president's second term, hopefully very different."

Of course, he may not really know anything but he does have an interesting take on DeLay's setting his own agenda. A very unsettling take.

[Vladimir]

30. So THAT'S why they invaded Afganistan...

to have a chat with Mullah Omar over how best to implement a theocracy...

V

[Khephra]

31. Welcome to my nightmare

This is the type of material that I spend all my non-DU time reading these days. I'm the local VP of the Indianapolis chapter of Americans United. Groups like AU have been trying to warn everyone for years now, and people shrugged off the Radical Right as being too small to do damage to this country.

Well, you all were wrong. (This isn't directed to DU...it's a general "You")

In countries where you have a low tech level, you need manpower. But in a high tech society with missiles satellites, all you need is a few people in the right positions to change everything.

And it all changed while most of the US wasn't paying attention. Most of "you" out there still aren't paying enough attention.

You cannot be bipartisan with those who would subvert the Constitution and replace it with the Ten Commandments. They won't surrender as this is a war of faith. There's no half-way meeting point with them. We're sinners and they're the saints. Why would they want to involve themselves with those they see going to Hell?

Oh, they'll try to save as many of us as possible, but it will be done through propaganda and the use of power. Either we'll convert or we'll be rendered powerless.

[Skittles]

37. religion will destroy everything that made America what she was

EVERYTHING.

[MrPrax]

40. Great Point...

and good for you in dealing with this threat in stark terms.

This has been a festering 'sore' for awhile and these guys have been brewing for awhile--their 'endgame' begun in the early 80s and they make no bones about the fact they want a Christian moral Republic...

Part of their scam has been to takeover lots of media in an attempt to make their extremist agenda seem plausible and centrist...

The unfortunate thing is that the 'you' is not necessarily the problem? Sure there are people who prefer to look at the world with rose-color glasses and live by vacuous phrases and 'lifestyle' soundbites, but the real blame must be laid at those growing legions of People who think the world is immoral, hate democracy because they see it as a plot to disarm 'moral teachings' and believe in a established order of pre-destination.

With such a growing number of people who wear such a 'shroud of hate and righteousness', there is unfortunately NO way to reach them...and as their numbers grow and grow, it because much more likely that a religious-based civil conflict will result eventually...

ALL of the elements are in place...the most important being a belief in a higher authority? Once 'key' people and institutions begin to declare 'unilaterialism', then a crisis of legitimacy will quickly collapse into widespread violence in certain parts of the country...

It is entirely possible now

[TOhioLiberal]

33. Kick!

:kick:

[devinsgram]

34. This article

needs to brought out to the American Public so they may see the what exactly is going on with this administration. This is more dangerous then we can begin to imagine and it needs to be given attention by Kerry and his upcoming campaign. The vast majority of Americans do no want to be part of this, but how will they know if it doesn't get exposed. Your right we should be afraid, very afraid of this type of dictatorship.

[rasputin1952]

36. The truly scary aspect of this situation...

is that there are people out there that WANT this to happen. Not the leaders of this movement, but those who follow blindly; fear them, those that are in the shadows allowing this to happen. These are our neighbors and "friends", they could not care less about anyone but themselves; delusion is a powerful motivator.

O8)

[Cooley Hurd]

38. As an Atheist, will I end up in some sort of concentration camp?

Man, such a statement would've been considered ludicrous only three years ago. Now, after reading this article, I'm seriously fearing persecution for the first time in my life... :scared:

[Imalittleteapot]

39. kick

kick