Gay marriage, unpopular?

[KuroKensaki]

One of the arguments I've always heard about gay marriage, and why many more Democrats don't support it, is that it doesn't 'poll well'. That the majority of people don't agree with it. Does anyone have a link to a study like that?

I talk to lots of people in lots of different demographics, and by far (I'm talking somewhere around 90%) of everyone who's ever expressed an opinion to me agrees that gays should have equal rights and the right to get married.

I think we're overly paranoid. I think gay marriage does poll well. But beyond that, we need to forget about polls. We need to worry about people. Who can watch the people in San Francisco getting married, the joyful looks on their faces, and disagree with it? The outpouring of support all over the country, the numerous states and counties and cities following in San Francisco's footprints, all this just goes to show that gay marriage is -not- an unpopular idea. When a chemical solution is supersaturated, nothing happens until you drop a crystal in. With that seed crystal there, the dissolved chemicals have a place to start, and a crystal forms faster than you could imagine. That's what's happening in America right now.

The conservatives were wrong. Middle America does believe in equal rights for gays and lesbians. And we're seeing that crystallize all over the country. Ladies and gentlemen, democracy has spoken, and they can't do anything about it now.

[sable302]

1. lets hope so (read edit)

'cause this is shaping up to be one of the big issues.

edit: Let's hope that the above poster is correct, that is....Not lets hope that gay marriage is unpopular......

[Aidoneus]

2. from personal experience..

most people I know support full and equal rights, to be sure (even my fairly conservative mother), just a bit tired of hearing about it.

[BR_Parkway]

3. I think Shrub put this into play alot earlier than he'd wanted

I think the plan was more build up "this is troubling" so that he could be seen as doing something for the will of the people once more news time had been used for showing protestors and "oh my god, if they don't stop the queers from marrying, I cant go home to my wife ever again" They would have done the whole propoganda buildup much better than they did (don't forget how often we heard we HAD to invade Iraq, they really are good at this BS)

Shrub was sinking in the polls and there were so many issues that they were getting hit on (Plame, Halliburton, AWOL) that they had to do something. So they pulled this out of the dirty tricks closet a couple months ahead of schedule.

Instead of being the big divide at the polls, enough time now for plenty of us to get married and prove that life goes on, no families disintegrate or brimstone raining from heaven.... Much more time for them to get more and more rabid and turn off the moderate center.

[KuroKensaki]

4. Quote in your profile...

Reminds me of another quote, a joke, though I forget where from.

"Newt Gingrich and Jessie Helms were shaking hands to congratulate each other on the passage of the Defense of Marriage Act. Which under the Act would make them criminals, because it will be illegal for a prick to touch an asshole."

Or something to that effect, heh.

[damnraddem]

5. Yeah, it's unpopular. It's only popular among gays. ;-)

Unfortunately, the policy of allowing it is also unpopular.

[struggle4progress]

6. How could you possibly ...

keep them from getting married? I really do worry about the children.

Oops. Wrong thread.

I was trying to post on Republican marriages.

Sorry.

[foreigncorrespondent]

9. ROFLMAO

Thanks for the good belly laugh. :)

[arewethereyet]

7. you wanted to see a poll, here you go

http://www.pollingreport.com/civil.htm

[KuroKensaki]

13. Wow.

That link is so.... incredibly depressing.

[Selwynn]

15. Yup, those are the numbers I see all the time :(

Doesn't mean we shouldn't still stand up for what's right.

[Bill of Rights]

8. I am following this issue

closely in Minnesota. I've read numerous anti-gay marriage letters to the editor. Republicans are upset that this has been called a civil rights issue. Probably because nobody in their right minds wants to be AGAINST civil rights. If we keep it labelled a civil rights issue, we will be okay. If they succeed in calling it something else, we will be in trouble.

A woman who attended a Kerry rally, down South, said gay marriage is an idea. She, an African-American resented it being called a civil rights issue.

As a lesbian, I resent certain African-Americans who feel they have a monopoly on civil rights. I am angry at them. I had supported them for everything they want(ed) and they are shitting on me.

[Zookeeper]

10. I suspect there was an organized effort....

on the part of the supporters of the anti-gay marriage amendment currently in the MN House (they started hearings on it today. The Star Tribune had mostly anti-gay letters on their editorial page over the last few days. I checked the Outfront website today, which has lots of info on letter writing; perhaps we should organize a flood of mail opposing the amendment.

[foreigncorrespondent]

12. Could you PM me?

I wanted to drop you a PM about something, but you aren't accepting PM's.

Thanks, hon.

[Deja Q]

11. ???

While maybe middle america couldn't care less what people do in their own bedrooms, "conservatives" happen to be in power and they're calling the shots. You bet they're going to try every dirty trick imagineable. They've done dirty tricks before, and for other issues as well.

In other words, just thinking "it will pass" won't do anything.

[Selwynn]

14. What polls are you reading? It's not popular

I don't think you should decide whether you stand up for right or against wrong by polls.

However, I've actually never seen a national poll that says "do you support gay marriages" that has the majority saying yes. I've also never seen a nationa poll that says "do you favor amending the constitution to ban gay marriages" that has the majority saying yes.

Even organizations like the ACLU or the PFAW say that we must work to "change public opinion" on this issue..

If the majority of America secretly in favor of gay mariages, its news to the majority of America.