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[Postman]

1. from your mouth to Gods ears..

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[CMT]

2. even when he was at 75% his re-elect numbers

were under 50%. He hasn't expanded his base since 2000. Those partisan divisions still exist and the "pundits" will not acknowledge this.

[chimpymustgo]

3. It's actually an exciting time. This fall will be downright fun.

Democrats are energized and smelling blood. We will nominate a good candidate who will kick AWOL to the curb.

I still like Edwards or Kerry, but others could do it to.

[Iverson]

4. question, PeteNYC

What if, like last time, the Democrat wins but the Republican is inaugurated subsequent to electoral fraud?

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[Rooktoven]

10. This time

We don't "accept" the outcome in the name of National unity. You can see where that got us.

It's a scary prospect. It would almost call for revolution.

Another scenario: What if some national "emergency" leads for * to call for postponing elections?

[devarsi]

22. Then the streets would be filled

with citizens of every stripe, demanding political justice.

Part of me hopes like hell that this will never happen, but part of me wants it to happen. It would be like an alarm clock ringing in the collective ear of America, rattling our sleepy consciousness.


Wake up Neo.

[Merlin]

5. Body bags returning will be the biggest factor.

15 months from now, another 500 Americans will have been killed in Iraq, plus another 2000 wounded. It will by then begin to take on the dimensions of another Vietnam.

Any president who leads this nation--opionally--into a quagmire because he has not thought through the implications is ignorant of history and deserves an ignominious fate.

[mjb4]

7. he who programs the voting machines

wins...

[bearfan454]

18. Damn Right !

That is exactly what will happen. Bev Harris has done some fantastic work. I hope we can actually get a fair count on the votes this time.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

8. He's gotten military families MAD

When the Army Times rants against the way the Repukes "support the troops" with reductions in haz. duty pay, etc, etc-and when military families unite in a group called Bring Them Home Now-when local families are in limbo as to the fate not only of their loved ones overseas but of their jobs--well, you know Bush's bid for a second term is circling the bowl.

[rock]

9. Yes, you're correct

While the media are conservative whores, they're just whores first. They will absolutely insist that this is a horse race, but it is, in fact, a horse and chimpanzee race.

[lcordero]

11. I'll go a step further

We have a good chance of sweeping the Senate races. That means 12 more seats and having a filibuster-proof Senate.

[GumboYaYa]

12. I agree 100%.

Yesterday I spent the morning and afternoon passing out flyers for Dean at Strassenfest here in St. Louis. We passed out over a thousand flyers to people and had a great reception. There were so many people that came up to me and told me they would vote for anyone other than Bush. People were very interested in Dean. It was a rewarding experience. I highly recommend getting out there and talking to people on the street. Your average American is seeing through the Bush charade. His support is as deep as a puddle.

[Jacobin]

13. Pete...this reminds of

the high point of the impeachment hearings. On TV the talking heads were giddy with delight over having Clinton on the run, just "amazed" that he would lie about having sex, completely convinced that the country would crumble unless he was immediately impeached.

Constant jabbering about how important it was to bring Clinton down.

Then, a curious thing began to happen. Clinton's poll numbers (do you think he should be impeached) went WAY up, to about 68% to keep him and stop the impeachment.

When those poll numbers were read on the air, the mediawhores were just aghast and were ON THE AIR asking "What's wrong with the american public? Don't they know what a horrible thing Clinton did? Are they not watching the news?"

That's when the worm began to turn and the public saw the disconnect between the "crime" and the junta's first attempt to overthrow a Democratic president, twice elected.

I believe that we are and will be seeing the same disconnect. Not ONE of Smirk's policies has resulted in anything but disaster or tragedy. It's just too hard to hide it all, try as they might.

[Terwilliger]

14. I think you folks are out of your gourd

you want to sit around and HOPE that George Bush does enough self-inflicted damage to convince the general public that Democrats will take care of them during a terrorist attack?

You'd better hope that Democrats can pull their act together. Other than that, I think Bush is certain to retain power.

Democrats can't even get together to hang the traitor...what makes you think they'll win an election? I seem to remember a lot of folks here at DU that figured that Democrats would take back the House and keep the Senate in 2002...

oh, WOOPS! Guess not!

[pansypoo53219]

15. IF YOU COME FROM A STATE WITH THE 'FIXABLE'VOTER MACHINES

a possible way to defeat it is ABSENTEE BALLOTS. ABSENTEEs use paper ballots, and if there are enough of those, they can't PROGRAM A BUSH WIN.

[Iverson]

16. Consider the implications.

You are essentially arguing that in order to protect the integrity of very basic democracy, the polity has to outwit the ruling elite.

Do you think that they might not be able to thwart that?

It would be far better to demand transparency in the process than to rely upon stealth.

[bodhisattava]

17. I hope you are right!

I hope we also nominate Dean,Clark and/or Edwards.

[wryter2000]

19. Well said

I think you're 100% right on. We're even hearing disatisfaction from the freepers.

[whoYaCallinAlib]

20. You're definately on to something.

I feel a dem victory too!

[RichM]

21. Optimism is a commendable quality, but even if you turn out to be right --

something I view skeptically -- the overall situation is not remotely satisfactory. Democrats would be winning not because they did anything well, but only because Bush's disastrous policies (often aided & abetted by Democrats) have started to fail in a way that can no longer be hidden or ignored.

Let's remember that only 11 days ago, Bush was staggering under the media attention to YellowcakeGate. Not only did Democrats fail to act in resolute unison to invoke party-wide discipline to exploit this matter for maximum political gain (ie, simply telling the truth insistently) -- they let it slip away once again (with Clinton himself spearheading the Bush defense, no less!!). This isn't how a winning team plays. You don't let your archrival up off the floor, if you're serious.

In the broader picture, the idea of the Democrats actually being "stronger" with the voters, even while all the media are crowing about how invulnerable Bush is -- this is not a condition one can be too happy about (even if it's true, which is unproven). It suggests that we live in a deranged oppressive state, similar to our somewhat-embellished image of the old USSR -- a state in which the truth is something people have to know about on a level far removed from official pronouncements.