Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The three worst scenarios for us this election

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 04:39 PM
Original message
The three worst scenarios for us this election
1. WMDs could be "found". I don't think this is likely, but I get the feeling that if we actually "find" any in Iraq, it will have the negative effect on us of a thousand Saddam captures.

2. Another terrorist attack, which could bolster *'s approval numbers long enough to create a 1984-style landslide. Nevermind botched intelligance, because you can rely on Limbaugh or Hannity to verbally beat dissenters into submission with the "you're unpatriotic" crap.

3. Bin Laden's "captured", although if * captures today this won't change the outcome of the election, especially if we go into another Orange Alert.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
KuroKensaki Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 04:45 PM
Response to Original message
1. My additions..
4) They stage an assassination attempt on * and say that Al Qaeda did it. Perhaps they tell * ahead of time, and get him to do something "heroic". Perhaps he "saves" a New York Times journalist's life.

But then, if *'s poll numbers keep falling, they may do away with the word 'attempt' in that last paragraph. An assassination and then decisive leadership by the VP in a time of crisis--that'd be an effective October surprise.

I wouldn't put any of it past them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Good addition
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 04:53 PM
Response to Original message
3. I disagree with #2
I think it would be the worst thing that could happen for Bush. Remember, the Democrats seem to have developed a spine and it would be so easy to say, " See, we told you, he can't keep us safe."

I think a lot of people would say that. I think there would be all sorts of fallout if that happened, including offering a new haven for Al-Queda in Iraq.

Believe me, Bush does NOT want a second attack.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. no.............. BUT
he would love to THWART a second attack...

that's the scenerio that could work for him
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Yeah and anyone who doubts the cabal is trying to manufacture one is
awfully damn stupid.
:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. he might
if it gives him an excuse to declare martial law and cancel the election.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. Fox is dying to convince people that Al Qaeda did Spain
Edited on Sat Mar-13-04 05:09 PM by Must_B_Free
so, how can people say that it's not good for W?

W's people are the ones selling the whole idea...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:06 PM
Response to Original message
7. Timing
A use of a plot could be exposed, unravel or just go wrong. The Madrid bombing is just the sort of timely poll confusing incident that if misinterpreted just enough to reach election day would change the vote from what it would have been on both sides of the narrow window. Fortunately, the swift analysis that it was Al Qaeda removed the government's early advantage and is now hours away from election- turning the other way(in a Diebold brokered election).

Should the Right flounder it will not be a great comfort to Bush. And with months of disaffections in his media kennel chorus the spin won't be as favorable or slow on the critique as it has been. Which is why Bush has not taken any time out from campaigning for Madrid, Haiti, S. Korea, ironically making it even harder for him to duck into the busy schedule of the "Rose Garden" with anything less than a monster of a crisis.

Last minute surprise and fingers crossed it will play right? Big monster crisis and hope Bush will get unswerving credit? It is getting later and later in the day from a time when this was presumed to be weak, from when people would timidly go along with the "popularity" of Bush.

And if it goes wrong, they could easily all be charged with treason. I can't imagine the number of witnesses to implanted WMD's could be suppressed long under heat. It has to be under the radar and under the glare of some other climactic event, sort of like frosting or affirmation to Restore the Emperor's raiment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:10 PM
Response to Original message
9. They would be liers @WMD


I would absolutely not believe them if WMD were "found."
They have had all this time to plant anything they want and they could do this too.

Kay said that Bush needs to give it up!

So, if they found them, it would be hard for clear thinking Americans to believe this group of crooks. Don't forget their buddies from Halliburton are over in Iraq with next to nother to do for all the money they are making. Who is watching them play for big pay over there?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:10 PM
Response to Original message
10. They would be liers @WMD


I would absolutely not believe them if WMD were "found."
They have had all this time to plant anything they want and they could do this too.

Kay said that Bush needs to give it up!

So, if they found them, it would be hard for clear thinking Americans to believe this group of crooks. Don't forget their buddies from Halliburton are over in Iraq with next to nother to do for all the money they are making. Who is watching them play for big pay over there?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:10 PM
Response to Original message
11. nope to all three
husband and i talked it this morning

there is a report out that someone saw military in the gulf of iraq pull out cargo of old weapons that can be made into wmd's in the dark of night adn not on a military carrier. so if he does flags will automatically go off

if another attack, then why not hire kerry, cause two attacks on bush watch kerry couldnt do any worse and just reinforces bush isnt worth keeping

and the bin laden arrest has been laid to reat cause everyone is taking bets on it the last couple months in distrust of bush so he has already been tainted on this and will just reinforce that view of him

now that letter that they found in spain, 90% almost finished with a project to create chaos in u.s. and then doesnt happen, bush can say look how good i am.........if kerry was here then they would have been able to execute
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:20 PM
Response to Original message
12. Adolf "Hitler" Hannity should do us all a favor and....
DROP DEAD!

Damn Nazi!

:puke:

:mad:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. If only!!
:evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:21 PM
Response to Original message
13. I believe almost everyone would think WMD were planted at this late date.
Smart campaigning should say: See, another attack on Bush's watch - he has really tried to keep America safe and here is proof positive that he can't do it.

The Bin Laden thing would probably help him :(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KuroKensaki Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:28 PM
Response to Original message
14. 1984-style landslide
A 1984-style landslide? You referring to St. Ronald of Reagan, or to Big Brother? I think both fit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
15. I've seen mentioned...
Reagan dying around election time. I'm not certain how profound an effect
that would have, but I certainly could see the GOP exploting it to whip up and renew support from the conservatives that Bush has managed to piss
off.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. However, most people
in this country probably think he's already dead, so it won't come as much of a shock. Hell, for all we know, he could be on ice right now waiting for his final encore.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Dec 27th 2024, 11:52 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC