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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:14 PM
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Poll question: What will happen first?
Consider #3 seriously.

If/when any of these horrific events occur, how are we to respond?

Should we be reactionary?

Or do we plan?

How do we plan?

Is there any hope at all?

Where's that human spirit?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:16 PM
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1. I picked Peak Oil
Because hopefully Bush won't be around long enough for WW3. If he is reselected, then switch my vote.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:17 PM
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My, you are feeling morose tonight
aren't you? Time for a toddy and a good night's sleep Mr. Toad!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:27 PM
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6. If you want morose...
I could have been much more depressing... They say one should always do what they're good at. :D

I slept all day thanks to sleep aids and ibuprofin to deal with my strained shoulder/neck muscles.

I also looked up "toddy", not knowing the definition. It ranges from coffee-related materials to some particularly interesting Cockney slang, which is probably what I really DO need right now. O8) :evilgrin:
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:17 PM
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2. What a depressing poll! (eom)
:cry:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:24 PM
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5. Let's face facts.
Time is a luxury none of us has; even if we're so lucky as to have 5 years left.

(also look up the price of crude oil, per barrel, since the late 90s. If you ask me, those who own the oil know we're experiencing peak oil now and are trying to use their influence to maintain the peak, or we've already passed the peak...)
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:41 PM
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10. Sorry, I'm stickin' to these...
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:22 PM
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3. In Jan. 2001
I told my hubby that we'd be in Iraq by 2002. I prayed that they wouldn't let that man alone in a room with any world leaders. I think WWIII.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:24 PM
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4. LoL Hypnotoad you are a worrywart like me!!
I tend to follow all of these posts and you are often almost always involved in them as much as I am!!! That's okay though.

I just think we need to act now and plan. My motto is to prepare for the worst and if it comes out better than I am pleasingly surpised. I don't like to be let down, thus I appear to be of the doom and gloom type.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:30 PM
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7. Thanks for the chuckle!
Normally, excessive worrying is a bad thing. But, for this issue at hand, worrying can lead to positive action. For me, phase 1 is to spread the word, but in a sane way so I don't end up looking like Henny Penny on crack...

And I hear you on philosophy. Seems better to prepare for it mentally. When it finally hits, the resultant depression isn't as harsh. Survival is another story, but if you're prepared for the blast, you're more likely able to recover from it. And you can't survive without recovery.

We also have to life life to the fullest, while things remain stable. Always keep that in mind too.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:34 PM
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8. I picked open revolt
I remember the long hot summers of the 1960's. It doesn't take much to set the cities ablaze. It could happen this year. Or if a Kerry election gives us a few years of grace, it could happen when people realize the jobs are gone for good anyway -- say 3 years from now.

I'm conspiracy-minded enough to believe the rich-and-powerful will not let Bush start World War III. They have too much to lose if he does. They're already trying to ease him out under cover of the democratic process -- but if that doesn't work, they will find some less tidy way to manage it.

And the effects of peak oil I expect to come on like gradually turning the heat up under the frog -- we may not notice them for a good while. Say 5-10 years, anyway.

So the first thing we have to do is deal with the ongoing state of class warfare. If we don't, we'll have no hope of handling peak oil with a united front of shared sacrifice and inventiveness.

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Gung_Fu Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:36 PM
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9. Yeah...
Bush won't be around long enough to start WW3 and option one will occur in China before it ever does in America.

If option three comes around those who are still wealthy will have to make big sacrifices, or a new upper class will emerge.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:44 PM
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11. WWIII started years ago so toss that
Jihadists have been at war since Clinton.

Peak Oil is decades off and likely a non issue. Just time for new technology in collection.

So a middle class revolt is the only logical option but I doubt it will happen any time soon.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:46 PM
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12. #2. It's already happened. And it is Bush's preemptive strike against #3.
#1 will, regretably, never happen.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 12:14 AM
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13. I agree with your assessment on #2
I think we have perhaps 15-20 years until #3.
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