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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:13 PM
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LIEberman was TOAST before today; he is CHARCOAL now...
Edited on Sun Aug-03-03 02:19 PM by TruthIsAll
after disparaging that great American, George McGovern. And saying that a Dean candidacy would set back the party 30 years.

He is bitter, he is a loser, and he knows it. But as I said in a recent post, I would even vote for Holy Joe if I had no other choice. Fortunately, I will have one.

Harry Truman would absolutely pummel this DINO.

Look, I am not for Dean - yet. But we need someone who is NOT afraid to go for the Bush jugular by telling the damn TRUTH. Whoever will, gets my vote.

BTW, my definition of a Liberal:
ONE WHO REASONABLY AND LOGICALLY PRESENTS AN ARGUMENT, WITHOUT RESORTING TO LIES AND BADMOUTHING OTHERS, AND WHO BELIEVES THAT, ULTIMATELY, SEEKING THE TRUTH FOR THE COMMON GOOD IS WHAT THIS NATION IS ALL ABOUT.
AND WHO BELIEVES THE GOVERNMENT REPRESENTS ALL THE PEOPLE.

METHINKS IT IS HARD TO LOSE WITH THAT PHILOSOPHY.


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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:16 PM
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1. I don't like Dean, but Lieberman was awful.
One thing that has turned me off about Dean is his attacks and on other candidates. What Lieberman did today was just as bad.

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:19 PM
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3. I'd like to know how to send a message to Lieberman...
...that would make him think about the damage he's doing....but there's nothing aside from a bag of flaming dog poop on the front porch of his home that would be significant.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:38 PM
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11. info@joe2004.com
this is his election site address.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:48 PM
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12. You "attack" so don't give me that sob story.
Charred pot calling kettle black.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:09 PM
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25. pot calling the kettle ecru? LOL!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:18 PM
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2. one more sunday talk show round and he'll be pure carbon
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:10 PM
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27. Lieberman is history. n/t
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sfecap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:19 PM
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4. I will NOT vote for Lieberman
under any circumstances. We already have a rethug in the WH...we don't need another one.

Of course that's easy to say...he won't get the nomination.

Rumor has it that his staff is demoralized because of lack of fundraising results. They can't get money. He's toast. He'll be gone in a couple of months.

His appearance on Blitzer's show today just proves his desperation.

Go away, Joe.

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:26 PM
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8. I can't vote for him
His enthusiasm for this war and his stance on freedom of religion are deal breakers for me. Although I like Dean's in-your-face approach to GeoW, I could easily support anyone who will ask the Thief in Chief the tough questions and keep pounding him until he implodes. Lieberman is not that man.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:51 PM
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13. The dlc aka/democrats/ lose/ constantly / will be soooooooo
Disappointed! Jeez! Lost again!
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:19 PM
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5. lieberman lost me completely when ...
Edited on Sun Aug-03-03 02:22 PM by Pepperbelly
the deaths of our soldiers were mentioned in the context of whether the war was necessary, he completely left the deaths out of his equation. I guess when one is used to having others fighting their battles for them, those deaths become less important.

Fuck Joe Lieberman.

He is dirt beneath my shoes.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:53 PM
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15. "he is dirt beneath" my toes!
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:20 PM
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6. "my definition of a Liberal:"
fits Dennis Kucinich to a T.

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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:26 PM
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7. Put a fork in him (metaphorically of course)
he's done..

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:55 PM
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16. What time is your show on today?
I know I can go to your website but I just saw your name and decided to ask!

I Really, Really, Really, Enjoyed it last week for the first time!

You and Will and Janeane!

:kick:
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:33 PM
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9. Why doesn't he just jump partties?
I guess the answer to my own question is: why join a party of people basically like yourself, when you can work to make your current party like the other party. Am I wrong here?
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DavidNY Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:22 PM
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28. His record on domestic policy issues really _isn't_ Republican-like...
I'm not a big fan of Lieberman, as his sanctimony and general style bug me and he's a bit too hawkish for my taste, but his voting record on domestic issues is actually pretty good. His environmental record, for example, is particularly impressive (League of Conservation Voters rating of 88, where the Democratic Senate average is 72 and the Republican Senate average is 13). And it doesn't make sense for him to switch parties on foreign-policy grounds alone; though it's in the minority at the moment, there is a hawkish tradition in the Democratic Party, if you think of Scoop Jackson or even JFK. Lieberman may be a moderate Democrat, and not one of my top choices for the primary, but he's _not_ a Republican, and he's less conservative than a lot of the Southern Democrats (not just the pure DINOs like Miller but the ones like Breaux). He'd be a lot better than Bush, and if he does win the primary (though I hope he won't), I'd vote for him in the general election in a heartbeat.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:36 PM
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10. Tweety on Lieberman.......
Did anyone watch Tweety on Hardball Friday night?

They were showing a clip of Lieberman and Tweety could be heard in the background calling Lieberman "boring."

I have no use for Lieberman. He hurt the Dems during the Florida recount with his stupid statements.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:52 PM
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14. The Lieberman DLCers don't want to leave the party...
...they want to change it into a subsidiary of the Republican party.

- The Liebermans of the Democratic party merely PRETEND to be Democrats as they push an agenda that would make GWB* proud.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:58 PM
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18. The DLC already gave up.
They are abandoning their support of Lieberman and are forced to the left by moving to Kerry. They saw the writing on the wall and it was not in the center. No compromising centrist will win the Dem nomination.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:57 PM
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17. LIEberman didn't fight in 2000
When he layed down and let the votes not be counted, I lost what faith I had in him. Now, with his war stance.....he's a crouton...as far as I am concerned.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:04 PM
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22. I know ..How about that? As if we didn't have enough trouble
in Florida from the repuke cabal. We had a saboteur in our midst!
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:58 PM
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19. I saw Joe today...
and he made me proud. He is a humble, educated and compassionate individual, and he'll make a great president.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:06 PM
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23. When they serve ice water in Hell.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:00 PM
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20. ABL
Anybody But Lieberman.

No Liberman, not now and not EVER.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:02 PM
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21. Looking @ lieberman is setting the party back 50 years!
he's been shocking me right along. Not having known what his real politics were. I liked him at first because he was Gore's running mate but even before his stab in the back style came out I was bored to tears by the site of him.

Dean says in his Austin, Texas TV ad that it's about time someone stood up to bush and his policies. :kick:

I've got myself a candidate with chutzpah!
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:10 PM
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26. Holy Joe stabbed Clinton in the back
IMHO. He was Clinton's best friend until the Monica fiasco - then he preached morality non-stop.

Holy Joe will never get my vote. Period.
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:28 PM
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29. Joe appeals to moderate-conservative wing of democratic party.
I hear what you say, and I agree with most of it. Except for the part that says he's toast. No doubt, the left wing of our party will vote for Dean or Kucinich. However, there are a lot of non-lefties who tend to favor his politics. And there just may be enough of them to give him the nomination. I don't think it's likely, but it is possible.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:31 PM
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30. It' s a little late for LIEberman's inner attack dog to make a showing
The time for that was during his pathetic performance in the vice-presidential debate with Cheney. It's been all downhill from there with sad-sack Joe.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:59 PM
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34. lol! "lieberman's inner attack dog to make a showing"!
You so pinned that on the tail of the donkey! :kick:
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:36 PM
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31. Lieberman is getting desperate
it is his nomination which would lead to the party suffering historic losses because overall he would be a parrot of Bush and try to find "conciliation". Could you imagine a presidential debate with Joe and Bush? think of the debate with Cheney times three.
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orangecoloredapple Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:44 PM
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32. 10% only in Iowa
sinking ship.
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:59 PM
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35. I'm even more for DEAN after Lieberman's saber rattling
The only reason Joe has any name recognition at all, is because of Al Gore. He needs to tone down his rheoteric. Going off on Dean is a big
mistake.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 04:07 PM
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37. Apparently, there is a mole or 2 in Joes camp. He is being set up as a
Edited on Sun Aug-03-03 04:09 PM by opihimoimoi
distraction. He is a pawnesque person. The Pub rooks are using him as bait to muddy the waters with diversion.

Go everyone else.

Never mind the person(messenger). Its the message of goodness, of logic, of what is best for all of America, present and future.

:bounce: Go Dems
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