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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:46 AM
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Rummy on Face The Nation now... Doing his Nosferatu routine...
Edited on Sun Mar-14-04 10:47 AM by Billy_Pilgrim
Seems to be getting his butt handed to him.

See it if you can.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:47 AM
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1. I'll try. I'm busy with Condi.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:48 AM
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2. Sounds as if the * admin is having a rough Sunday morning...
I like it!
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:50 AM
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3. This bothers me
When I deign to watch these crapfests lately, I can't help noticing a marked difference in how they right-wing guests are treated. Instead of taking stupid non-answers as given and going on to the next question, hosts are pressing them on details.

Anyone know what might explain this turnaround? I wish they'd have been this critical BEFORE the war started.

All these people dead... more dying every day lately... and NOW they decide to get tough.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:55 AM
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6. Two reasons that I can guess...
1. In the fever of "Patriotism" coupled with the ferver of the right's vehemonence toward anyone who dared oppose the war, they were frightened to press on anything for fear of becoming the next Peter Arnett.

2. They are now viewing Rove and Bush as lame ducks.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:58 AM
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7. thye are liars and crooks
it has been said out loud. a liar can only be successfull when it is not said out loud. once out loud, easy as pie to see and hear. kerry's greatest gift was to say liar out loud and not take it back. i deal with chronic liars, only needs to be said out loud
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:15 AM
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14. I really love that Kerry said that
All this feigned shock from the talking heads... what a sham! Has anyone bothered wondering if it's actually true yet? The fact that the truth of his statement is even in doubt just shows how badly they've done their jobs the past three years.
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 02:57 PM
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22. That is so true
Kerry was not my choice, but I have grown to respect the way he's running this campaign and not backing down. Once the "L" word is out there,unwithdrawn, it gives those chickens in the media the cover to try to do their jobs.
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lefty_mcduff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:26 AM
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17. I bounced a theory around a while back.
That is, for the media to continue in their *biased* reporting (and get away with it) they have to the appearance of credibility. The media gave Bush and Co a pass on the fuck-ups, until they became no many, too widley know (thanks to the internet) to ignore. If Chimp & Co are out in November, the media will still be around. If they don't pound Bush a little, who's going to listen to them then.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:52 AM
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4. Never have seen Rumsfield so rattled
Whoa!
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:53 AM
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5. Rummy needs to be taken down a peg or two
Or twelve.

No, on second thought, just hit him with the peg, and make it a big one.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:58 AM
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8. Please please, more details!
For those of us who can't watch. Let us in on the fun.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:03 AM
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10. It's over now... It was typical Rummy...
They'll have a transcript up shortly.

Pretty much, "That's uh, uh, not what I really said." sort of thing when asked abut nukes and WMD. And when asked about Terry Kay, he says "I haven't read his full report."

Right. Maybe Kay found WMD on page 12.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 01:24 PM
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20. How many times can they use the "I haven't read the whole report"
defense. That's their JOB! Is he waiting for the movie? I wish they would use something more plausible like my dog ate the report or something.
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chicagojoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:01 AM
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9. I can picture Rumfella having a little hissy fit...
...after he left the set of Face The Nation. What a LOSER!!!!!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:23 AM
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16. More information, I missed it! Damm it!!
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:08 AM
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11. I particularly liked the part where he denied that he had said Iraq
was an Imminet Threat...and then they read his own statements back to him!
What a Jackass he looked like!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:10 AM
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12. That was sweet. I think there's going to be a lot of that for the
next several months.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:14 AM
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13. 'Bout time!
Dontcha think?
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 05:45 PM
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26. That transcript reads UGLY!
No wonder he was out later in the morning making a statement.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:17 AM
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15. Transcript snippit from a year ago:
Edited on Sun Mar-14-04 11:19 AM by Billy_Pilgrim
<snip>
Schieffer: All right. One of the things that apparently he has told U.S. officials is that the Iraqi Nuclear Program ended in 1991.

Rumsfeld: That's been the standard mantra from the Iraqis over a sustained period of time.

Schieffer: Do you believe that?

Rumsfeld: Did you believe the Minister of Information of Iraq when he said there were U.S. forces in Baghdad?

Schieffer: No.

Rumsfeld: There hasn't been much that they've said that is believable. Anyone who's watched them over the years knows that they're liars, skillful to be sure. And they've been able to get the world's press to carry their lies around as though they were true without saying, "Be on notice. Caution. These people lie repeatedly." And it wasn't until they had the split screen with the U.S. forces at the Baghdad Airport and the Minister of Information saying they weren't there. That people said, "Oh my goodness he's lying. Isn't that amazing."
<snip>
Schieffer: Are you still convinced we will find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

Rumsfeld: Oh my goodness, there's been so much intelligence, CIA material about what's been going on in that country that if we can find the right people who will tell us where they've located them then that's the way we're going to find them. Inspectors didn't find them and certainly we're not going to find them. It's not like a treasure hunt when you run around and dig down and see if there's a tunnel some place. You've got to find the people who dug the tunnels, the people who've worked in those operations.

Schieffer: And you think we will?

Rumsfeld: I do.
<snip>


http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2003/tr20030413-secdef0101.html
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:33 AM
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19. Thanks for the link
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 11:26 AM
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18. The National Officers Assoc. is calling 'stoploss' the draft?
Oh cripes!!!!!! Retired Officers of the military are busting on Rummy and the W tribe?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 02:21 PM
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21. I heard that media question explained...
...by Sam Donaldson and Leslie Stahl a couple of weeks ago.

They said that when a president is popular, the press is afraid to go after him. But when his poll numbers drop, they're all over him.

To me, that's an admission that reportage today has no relationship to truth, and is fully subjective. It was disgusting.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 03:32 PM
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23. certainly not courages
something to be proud of. shame shame i say in laughter.
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 05:32 PM
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24. um I don't know
whenever I can bring myself to watch rummy, it seems every answer contains the phrase I don't know or I don't have that info. What does he know? anything? Does he know you're not supposed to remove eveidence from a crime scene and keep it on your desk as a souvenier (sp)?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 05:42 PM
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25. Rumdum
this guy is a vile, sociapath. One could surmise that he is a killer in love with death dealing. It is telling that the American people do not stand up and rail against such obvious fascist monsters, such as this. I cannot stand to see him or any of the other Buschco gangsters spout their crap. PUKE!!!!
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