God I hate George "Judas" Stephanopolos

[Puglover]

He was just on GMA shilling for Bush. He was debunking Kerrys claim that he(Kerry) has met with foreign leaders that want Bush out. Judas was quick to point out that Kerry hasn't been out of the country since 2002 and has only been in one US city at the same time as a foreign leader. WTF?? Since when does the word "meeting" have to mean face to face?

[muchacho]

1. Stephanopolos

I means opportunistic hobbit in Greek.

[trumad]

2. Georgie, Dickie Morris, etc....

The Ho's remind me of the OJ Prosecutors... It's like, why are they still around?

[ulysses]

3. snarf!

"opportunistic hobbit" :D

[Mikimouse]

4. Of course! Haven't you heard of Bilbo's cousin

Dildo? That would be Judas' father.

[desi]

5. Did anybody bother to ask him how many foreign leaders

...have visited Washington DC since 2002...???

[recidivist]

10. It's a bit trickier than that.

John Kerry has been running for president for more than a year. Spending the last year on the campaign trail means (1) he's been gone from Washington a lot and (2) his day-to-day schedule is a matter of public record. Unless Jacques Chirac, Gerhardt Schroeder, et. al. were hanging out incognito in New Hampshire waffle houses, we can be pretty sure Kerry didn't meet with them.

This story will go away if handled properly, but Kerry misspoke and needs to regroup gracefully. I've no doubt he has heard second and third hand from journalists (both U.S. and foreign), international business types, and politicos back from travels abroad that the European social democratic set is rooting for him. Of course they are, just as European conservatives will root for Bush. Nothing surprising, or wrong, about that.

But Kerry inflated and dramatized the story by talking, probably inaccurately, about MEETING with foreign leaders who "looked him in the eye" and told him how important it was that he win. Unfortunately, news organizations by now have checked the travel schedules and pretty much know where Kerry has been minute to minute. The fact is, over the past year he probably has met with very few people who are not either (1) a journalist, (2) a contributor, or (3) a Democratic primary voter. Kerry needs to back down a bit before he turns a minor misstatement into a fiasco.

It may be instructive to recall the wild accusation a few years ago about George Bush the Elder. A middle eastern fellow of dubious connections and character surfaced to charge that Bush, on behalf of Ronald Reagan, had met in Paris with representatives of the Ayatollah Khomeini for the nefarious purpose of delaying the hostage release until after the 1980 election. The conspiracy buffs of a leftward persuasion ran hot and heavy with the charge.

The problem was, Bush and Reagan had been full time on the campaign trail during the time period in which the Paris meetings were supposed to have taken place. The old geezers around here may recall how the conspiratorialists ended up chasing a few tiny windows of opportunity during which Bush MIGHT just barely have had time to do it -- provided he slipped away unseen from the American Legion event at 10 p.m., zipped over to an SR 71 standing by (clandestinely) at some local airport, raced to Paris for a (clandestine) meeting on the tarmac, and raced back in time for the press breakfast the next morning, all of course on the assumption that rogue elements in Jimmy Carter's Air Force supplied him with an SR 71. The story collapsed from its own weight.

I do not think we want to be stuck defending this kind of scenario for John Kerry to be holding secret meetings with foreign heads of state. Kerry needs to deflate this now.

[Grandma Moses]

11. Is that true?

Did he really say they looked him in the eye? And who claims they know his travel schedule?

[recidivist]

13. Yes.

According to the quotes I've seen, Kerry made some remark about foreign leaders looking him in the eye as they told him how important it was for him to win. This implies personal meetings and would appear to be an invention.

Still, this is a fairly minor matter of gilding the lily -- since there is no doubt the European left wants Kerry to win -- unless Kerry digs in his heels and tries to claim a series of secret meetings. Then he makes himself look silly. He's been in Washington practically forever and has met with plenty of foreign leaders both here and abroad over the years; he doesn't need to start padding the resume now.

As far as his schedule is concerned, Kerry has been travelling with a press pool tagging along for over a year. Every day's schedule is blast faxed to every news organization around, and his press folks are on the phone 24/7 trying to boost coverage. He does photo ops with every hand he shakes (apparently except for foreign heads of state ....). He can't belch without it being on tape. News organizations keep files. The press knows his day-to-day and hour-to-hour whereabouts.

[newyawker99]

16. Hi Grandma Moses!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[lancdem]

17. You make some good points

Your analysis makes sense.

[Mountainman]

18. Give us a link to the "looking in the eye" story please

It sounds to me like you are the one inflating and dramatizing the story

[Djinn]

32. Foreign leaders aren't neccesarilly heads of state

and I can give you an absolute definite example of one leader (the leader of the Australian Opposition) who is likely to be the AUstralian PM in 6 months time, who definetly wants rid of him...Mark "the most dangerous and incompetent president in American history" Latham.

Though presumably Kerry's folks could clear up (they don't need to name) whether they meant heads of state OR leaders and whether it was a face to face meeting, and end the debate.

[Darth_Kitten]

6. ABC pissed me off this morning.......

Now I'm in a bad mood, first Georgie and then the rich stay at home mothers saying you can't do it all. :eyes:

ugh, I'm going to work. :)

[PROGRESSIVE1]

39. Watch Curic, NBC, and CBS in morning. ABC is the Fox "News" of....

the Big Three Broadcasters.

[PDX Bara]

7. "I got mine..."

Looks like another case of crossing over to the dark side after acquiring some wealth. When is he coming out as a Repugnant or has he already? I don't remember the exact source of this saying but "May he live in interesting times."

[StopThief]

8. He was probably focusing on the fact that Kerry said. . . .

they "look you in the eye . . .". This insinuates face to face.

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

12. But you can talk to people online face-to-face now too

My husband has a camera on his computer and he can talk face to face with people that also have a camera on their computer. It's not all that expensive, so maybe people like Kerry and heads of countries have that too or something similar.

[dennis4868]

9. I have not seen my mom in 2 years....

because I have not been out of the country since 2002 but I have talked to her everyday since 2002. Yeah, I used the phone. Most likely that is what Kerry used....

[Puglover]

14. It sounds like he was

"guilding the lily" Jesus..I HOPE he is more careful as this campaign goes on. We can't afford to let the Repugs have any opportunities to "Gore" Kerry. The stakes are so bloody high.

[BillZBubb]

15. I agree

Kerry seems to have said what he thought to be true in a way that sounded like he knew it to be true first hand. He had better be very careful in the future. This one will hurt him some and the Repugs will beat it into the ground.

My advice, stick to facts like "crooks and liars". Maybe Colon Bowel will ask for him to name names on that.

[Paragon]

19. Give me a fucking break.

The guy goes from Clinton aide to reporter, and that makes him a "Judas"?

Ever read his book? The guy had to grow a beard towards the end of his tenure with Clinton to cover up the way his face was breaking out from stress.

Be careful with your bullshit Biblical imagery and who you use it on.

[Puglover]

21. Yeah uh...okay uh....for sure...

consider me advised.
:eyes:

[Puglover]

22. Yeah uh...okay uh....for sure...

consider me advised.
:eyes:
whoops double post...sorry....I was laughing at the severe scolding and hit enter twice.

[tabasco]

25. Poor wittle Georgie!!

Did he cry because his job was so difficult!? I'm sure HIS book explains what a great hero he is.
The guy did an about face on people who helped him very much and stabbed them in the back. He is a JUDAS and I will use biblical imagery all I want despite "warnings" from anyone. If you can't handle free speech, don't participate.

[homelandpunk]

28. that was, ummmm.......

a weird response. Are you ok???
Fuck the Bible. How's this: George is a pigfucker. Of course, I guess pigfucking could be found in the bible too...it is loaded with every other conceivable perversion. But I ain't got the time to look pigfucking up in my Strongs's Concordance to see which scripture alludes to it.
Steph is a pigfucker...mm'kay? Deal with it. I got way too much other things to read besides his book, so if you want to enlighten us on the wisdom contined within it's covers, please share. Bottom line: George beams when he discusses Chimpy McMoron. The little shit could not stand the fact that SEX took place with Clinton. That makes him a fucking pussy, wussy, closet neo-con.
Sex happens, Steph. It is the human condition, you little pansie pigfucker.

[woodstockjimi]

31. COME ON

i may be liberal but i still love my GOD...DONT say f*** the b****, PLease...at least for those of us that pray!!!! Thanks!!!!

[woodstockjimi]

30. yeh!!!!!

[jpgray]

20. In bizarro-world, the telephone does not exist. (nt)

[Bandit]

23. Leader is pretty vague

I consider all elected officials to be "Leaders". He did not say heads of state that I recall.

[Puglover]

24. This illustrates to me how fine

the line is between attacking BushCo and staying very accurate with his public statements and as someone said "guilding the lily" If Al Gore could say things in the 2000 campaign and be so savaged by the whore media it seems to me that should serve as a warning to any Democratic candidate. Im not saying tiptoe....I'm just saying if the Repug attack machine is in full attack mode do NOT give them anything to go on.

[Piperay]

26. There is this 'new' invention called the telephone

apparently Stephanopolis have never heard of it and doesn't know you can use it to talk to people without even having to leave home. :eyes:

[Paradise]

27. it's obvious

that 'almost' every government in the world, and a majority of the voters in this country want * , and his cohorts out. i'm quite confident that what kerry said is true. the statement that 'judas' made, as you so aptly called him, is absurd, and shows either his ignorance or his audacity.

[woodstockjimi]

29. wrong!!!

Stephanopolos is only doing his job. Kerry needs to be careful if he is claiming to meet foreign leaders that want Bush out. If he wont reveal names, then he shouldn't bring it up. This only makes him look desperate.

[Xanth]

33. I agree

I heard a clip of news on the radio today where Kerry was asked a question about this very issue. Kerry refused to answer. He instead redirected a question to the one asking.

Kerry cannot think that he can continue to avoid the tough questions. Especially the ones that he brings on himself. If he is going to try and impress those fence riders he has got to be honest. People are too savvy in todays news to know when a nominee is trying to dupe them.

[woodstockjimi]

44. thanks..

i dont have many friends on this site..by the way, welcome..you are pretty brand new. So am I.

[keithyboy]

34. Kerry didn't say that he "met" with them. He said he "spoke" to them.

Where is this information coming from?

[Xanth]

36. Here is a link.

It seems Kerry says he has been told face to face.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040315-122457-7534r.htm

[calimary]

41. It's also in the Washington TIMES, which is not exactly a hallmark

for objective reporting...

[Xanth]

43. Well can you please post a link from someone who is???

[Kimber Scott]

35. Kerry will never and should never tell

who the "foreign leaders" are. Why, so Bush and Co. can go beat them up? Maybe, take their milk money? What a bunch of idiots.

Stephanopolos can eat poop.

[Djinn]

38. also seems a bit

"well duh" to me - all of the leftie leaders (and I would say Blair is an exception IF he were a leftie) would presumably prefer Kerry, kinda obvious really

[emc]

37. seem to forget

You guys seem to forget that this is the day of electronics---you could possibly have a conversation with someone and see them over the telephone now-(LOOKED ME IN THE EYE)---My neighbor talks to his kids ever week and sees them at the same time----LIVE----from across the country---and its cheap---the tech is there and its cheap now---------
I'm not saying that this is what happened but its possible------

[Pobeka]

40. Washington times is the lying liar this time.

For crying out loud folks, go read that article.

Kerry didn't say "face to face". That was not in quotes.

This is another classic smear piece, from the Washington Times.

It's their job to twist, spin information so it seems true.

We can't let this go to far, it's not news, it's an opinion piece.

[Puglover]

42. You're right Pobeka

I just read the article and it is SO slanted....with comparisons to Gores exagerrations! And they drag out that old fucking bullshit quote..."I played a leading role in creating the internet" which he never said and in fact he did initiate legislation that helped the internet get going. Dammit, now Im pissed off and it's only 6am...
If the fucking media "Gores" Kerry this time I'm moving to Mexico....LOL