CNN Poll On Madrid

[Beloved Citizen]

Question: Are the election results in Spain a victory for terrorists?

Yes 72%
No 28%

http://www.cnn.com

[Goldom]

1. disgusting.

it's a victory for the PEOPLE who *THEY* voted for.

[artistforpeace]

2. just when I think...

Just when I think people are coming back to reality I see something like this. I'm sorry but you can't just blame this on CNN media whore, etc ideas. People in this country just are plain non-thinkers (aka dumb).

[Beloved Citizen]

9. Madrid was a defeat for Bush

What better example of Bush's failed war against terrorism than the murders in Madrid? Osama bin Laden is still at large, al Qaeda can still deliver brutal attacks against innocent civilians, all while our servicemen are being murdered by insurgents using terrorist tactics in Iraq.

Bush claims he has stood up to terrorism and that because of him the terrorists have been defeated and the world is a safer place. Is that obvious stretch even remotely believeable any more?

The voters in Spain just threw out Bush's allies there, and the new govt is pulling their people out of Iraq. Spain threw out the center-right regime there because they believed it was their support for Bush that brought this disaster upon their country.

The question that must be asked: Had Bush truly been waging a successful war against terrorism, would Madrid have happened?

Madrid was a defeat for Bush. And as in the past, Bush's defeat came with the deaths of a lot of good and innocent people.

[nomaco-10]

3. Eerily close to the poll numbers for the Iraq war just one short year ago.

Unbelievable at how truly ignorant this country can be on a regular basis. It's completely depressing that such a small minority in this country choose to educate themselves on current events and world affairs, truly scandalous.

[kysrsoze]

4. I would like to think this poll was obviously freeped

72%? Come on. Most sensible people who actually read/listened to the story would start to have some serious questions.

[Joanne98]

5. KICK

Stupid Murkins. When will they ever learn. grrrrrrrrrr
This is the most blatant, in your face, propaganda spin I've seen CNN do in a long time. They need to get screamed at for this. What BULL.

[still_one]

6. Time to bomb Madrid

either they are with us or against us...

[Capt_Nemo]

7. Uh-oh, I'm accessing their page from Europe and the question

is different: "Do you think the Spanish government's support for the war in Iraq was a key factor in its poll defeat?"

Yes, indeed, but are americans viewers seing the same results under a very
distinct question?

[dweller]

13. are the results (#%) the same?

ie. compiled.

dp

[Capt_Nemo]

15. Well, the results now shown are:

Yes 87% 5116 votes

No 13% 782 votes


Total: 5898 votes

[TheWebHead]

19. it's a different poll

on cnn.co.uk...

[freeminder]

22. I hate how CNN handles European web viewers

they switch to some international edition without asking you, and keep it like that using a cookie (well that was a year ago, never went back since, whores) To me it gives the impression they have two truths.

Scary.

[Minstrel Boy]

24. Happens to me in Canada, too.

CNN shunts me to the less jingoist "international" edition. But the value of CNN for me is seeing what they're saying to Americans. To me, they have nothing to say.

[BabsSong]

8. CNN is reading their e-mails on this which tell different story

The e-mails are basically a blast at Bush's pre-emptive war and what it's doing to make terrorism worse; thus, Bush being the 'cause', if you will, of the Madrid bombings. There was nothing in the ones I heard that said it was a victory for terrorists and thus we had to stand behind our beloved leader, etc.

[BabsSong]

10. P.S. to what I just said

I think, therefore, that the poll reflects something that is true "the terrorists won this round" BUT it isn't reflecting that people are saying "they won because this asshole in the White House has stirred this crap up in launching an unnecessary, illegal war".

[pippin]

11. True to their whoring

CNN has framed the question in such a way that slams the socialist party in their moment of victory. Really hate the effing media and their kiss arsing the white house bunch. :mad:

[molly]

12. 71% = Yes, 29% = No

keep voting!

[myrna minx]

14. Done. n/t

[Brotherjohn]

16. So I suppose when we vote Bush out in November, 70% of the people...

... including a large chunk of those who voted for Kerry, will say that we just handed the terrorists a victory?

Terrorists are evil. They are pathologically insane. But if a goverment commits injustices in fighting them, then both that nation's people and the terrorists can share the same interest in having that government replaced.

[Brotherjohn]

21. Further, one could argue that a government taking a hardline position...

... against terrorism in the fashion that Spain, the U.K., and the U.S. have done, is a "victory for terrorism".

Our invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan have resulted in much more ammunition for terrorists to use in gaining recruits, and have arguably strengthened terrorism. As though it weren't already buring hotly enough, we have stoked the fire under the terrorists.

Think about it this way. Spain would likely not have been bombed (at least not now and not with such ferocity) had they not backed the U.S. It enraged them, and made Spain a target. While a goverment that takes a more diplomatic, and "law enforcement" approach to terrorism might seem like a victory to terrorists, it will also have the effect of taking much of the steam out of terrorist movements.

Believe me, Al Qaeda WANTS Bush in power. They WANT Blair and Aznar in power. It furthers his cause. It gives even these murderers and criminals some moral high ground when our governments go too far in fighting them, or at least makes would-be terrorists see the fight as more moral as they make the decision to step into that world.

[RobertSeattle]

17. Current Results

Are the election results in Spain a victory for terrorists?

Yes 71% 42729 votes
No 29% 17348 votes

Total: 60077 votes

(Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer)

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

18. Correct me if I'm wrong, but

I thought I saw somewhere here on DU last week that at this time last year 90% of the people in Spain were against sending their troops to Iraq. If that is true, what is so surprising about the results of yesterday's election?

BTW, I voted NO in the CNN poll

71% Yes 43,607
29% No 17,635
Total 61,342

[Bridget Burke]

20. I voted No--twice!

Just as a test.

If I had nothing else to do all day, I'd vote a couple hundred more times. Darn, don't think I would, even then--that "honesty" thing would crop up.

Guess who has no worry about honesty & lots of time on their hands?

[eissa]

23. I just went online this morning and saw that

I rushed over to here to see if the level of disgust equaled mine. I can't believe what a slanted and transparent "poll" that is. So if you don't wish to send your children to die in a war that benefits the administration of another country, then you must be a terrorist? :grr:

[Lorien]

25. kick

[MrBadExample]

26. Every time I think this country can't annoy me more...

Situations like this always remind me of an old Milk and Cheese quote:

"I wish I had a baseball bat the size of Rhode Island so I could beat the shit out of this stupid-ass planet!"

[devinsgram]

27. Done, 70 - 30 now

the no's are gaining

[SoCalDem]

28. The question is scurrilous..

The real question should be:

Are the election results because of the 90% against the war

or

Are the election results a rebuke to Bush?