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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:14 PM
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Slapping down Chimpy's "leadership" meme...

Lately, the big reich-wing spin on Chimpy is about his "leadership". I know several Repugs who point to that as their reason for liking him, though they avoid specifics, of course.

So I have been trying to think of examples where Chimpy showed ANY kind of leadership at all on ANY issue. This is what I was able to come up with:

Afghanistan -- a no-brainer after 9/11, though they've managed to screw that up now.

Stem-cell research -- God don't like it, apparently.

Iraq -- we all know how well THAT is going.

Gay Marriage -- God hates the gay folk, I guess.

Have there been ANY other "leadership" decisions made by Chimpy?

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:16 PM
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1. The Republican "idea" is that Bush says what he's going to do and does it.
It doesn't matter if he leads us to hell in a handbasket as long as he's leading.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:18 PM
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4. exactly.
"Leading where?" should be the question.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:43 PM
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9. actually he often reneges
promises billions for AIDS whil the cameras are rolling, then cuts it out of the budget. Promises billions for firefighters and other first responders and to rebuild NYC, then cuts it out of the budget, then the NYC people are labeled as "money grubbers" for asking for what was promised. He visited some school in Portland, OR touting their great programs, then a couple of weeks later cut the funding for the place.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:51 PM
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12. Excellent point!
:toast:
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:17 PM
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2. More arsenic in our water
Breaking his promise to limit carbon emmissions

Tax cuts
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:17 PM
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3. None...this stymies me too....he has done absolutely NOTHING that
demonstrates true leadership...
He shows up for photo ops at disaster sites...big deal, what president doesn't??
He creates photo ops giving false impressions of his credentials and intentions...this is not leadership, it's showmanship, very crass at that...
He occasionally reads his lines without mangling his native language...again, not leadership, dumb luck more like it...
He's got nothin'.
Kerry has it absolutely right...he has a record to run away from, hence the distractions of a gay marriage amendment and all that crap...
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:19 PM
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5. no leadership on the very day they love to tout, 911
they didn't REACT at all, until it was way too late even though that whole tragic event took almost two hours to unfold.

i like using that one on them, no one can say for sure how they would have reacted but most admit that they would have at least reacted.

peace
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:20 PM
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6. Manned mission to Mars
That's estimated to cost 500 billion dollars

Fighting steriod abuse

The Mexico worker permit program. That will put more Murkins out of work

Labeling condoms

And fighting Janet's boob :)
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:27 PM
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7. THE PLAME ISSUE - LEADERSHIP FAILURE
bush said he wanted his staff to cooperate with investigators. IF HE HAD ANY LEADERSHIP SKILLS WHATSOEVER, there would be no need for an investigation. COOPERATE my ass. If HE WERE IN CHARGE, the felon would have been in custody a long time ago.

Sorry to rant and rave but I served in the military where leadership is essential to get the job done, to easily separate the wheat from the felons. bush DID NOT SERVE IN THE MILITARY, he was GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO AVOID VIETNAM AND HE FUCKED THAT UP, ONLY BECAUSE OF ROVIAN OBFUSCATION IT WILL TAKE US JUST A LITTLE WHILE LONGER TO CONVINCE THE LEMMINGS.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:34 PM
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8. What set of Chimpy behaviors constitute the "Leadership" thing?
I have to ask myself, what set of Chimpy behaviors constitute the "Leadership" thing?

The only thing I can come up with is his obstinate refusal to listen to reason; his willful prosecution of his own agenda; his loyalty to energy, pharmacuetical and defense industries; his "strong" position on establishing a police state in America, and the way he kisses the collective ass of the religious right.

Somewhere out of this fecal goo of disfunctional behaviors, Bush expects his followers to see "decisive leadership with a far-reaching vision for America and the world".

These are the same followers who will be lining up for handouts in a few years if Bush gets to deliver another term of brutishness and plunder construed as "leadership".
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:44 PM
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10. C'mon - let's be fair!
Bush led the way to his hidey-hole on 9-11 (and Cheney is still there).

Bush led the way to Alabama, when he was supposed to be serving in the Texas Guard.

Bush led us to the most job losses of any president since Herbert Hoover.

Bush led us to the biggest deficits in US history.

Bush led us to a war of aggression against Iraq, and a failed war against the Taliban.

Bush has led the way to Flip Flop City (examples too numerous to mention).
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:50 PM
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11. Point on Afghanistan - Bush doesn't have the same intensity that
the USSR had when it comes to smacking down someone that pissed it off. (Remember the hostage situation in the theatre? Not Soviet Union, but still same people and attitude.)

And Afghanistan was able to keep the Soviet Union essentially at bay.

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 12:55 PM
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13. He's already doing that himself
not just by his fuckups on the job but also because He has deigned to call Kerry by name so early.

A sitting President is much better off swatting down challengers in the broadest, unnamed sense and by seeming to be "above it all" for as long as possible.

By naming Kerry the challenger, Bush the officeholder automatically ELEVATES Kerry to his level.

Heh. We got him on the ropes, guys!
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