Nixon vs. Kerry on NBC news

[buycitgo]

they just showed a clip from the Dick Cavett show, ca. 1971, in which Kerry was debating a Nixon-picked little worm (very Hitler youth appearing) about Kerry's testimony before congress.

the worm was giving it to Kerry about the infamous war-crimes testimony, and NBC edited it to make Kerry look not so hot.

anybody see the whole story?

I came in where they were playing a Nixon tape, in which they chose the little slimecritter, named ONeil.

you can look for the pugs to be using this one, too, I'm sure

payment in kind, NBC? going to report that as a campaign donation?

[lastknowngood]

1. What the heck is going on first they try calling Kerry JFK and now

they are bringing up Nixon, just how retro is this election going to be anyway?

[buycitgo]

2. tweet has the same story on now

has Buchanan on, talking about Nixon/Kerry, showing a memo from PB, advising Nixon on how to treat the VVAW

[buycitgo]

4. asking Buchanan what he thought of him then

'outraged' about Kerry calling viet soldiers "essentially mad dogs"

cleverly changing words around for desired effect, so that people will think Kerry called them "mad dogs"

it was JOHN ONeill who debated Kerry, btw.

was it the same John ONeill who was treasury secretary

he's giving it to Kerry for calling Vietnam Nixon's war......screeching about how it was Johnson's war

talking about how we were WINNING the war!!!!!

saying the hatred of Nixon knew no bounds.....that's why they were against war!

he's INSANE!!!!

says Kerry ought to apologize to comrades for calling them war criminals

YOU ought to be tried for war crimes yourself, Patsy!

where were YOU during the war....in and out of jail, right, and nursing your "bad" knee?

[Paradise]

7. *'s first treasury secretary was paul o'neill.

just finished reading his book 'the price of loyalty' wherein he exposes this administration, and in a not very good light. one of the better books on this administration that i've read.

[Doctor Pedantic]

3. Well, JFK vs. Nixon

Worked pretty well for us last time (for a couple of years anyway).

[Imajika]

5. These stories are bad for Kerry

The more Americans see John Kerry as a 60's radical, the less likely they are to vote for them.

The GOP, and the news media, will be spending quite a lot of time showing these pictures of Kerry's VVAW days.

Imajika

[buycitgo]

6. You're absolutely right......but......bring it ON!

DEMAND Bush release ALL his TANG records

there's a thread here today, linking a story about Bush's clearance to carry nukes, and THAT's the reason he "failed to accomplish" his physical

NOW's the time to DEMAND he come clean on why he quit flying.

anybody have that story now

[Mountainman]

9. All that needs to be done is to show how us vets love Kerry

To make this story go away. Vets from Vietnam do not hate Kerry for his stand.

[Mountainman]

8. Kerry was right then and he is right now

I would think that most of us vets were against the war when we got home. I sure was and I was going to tell people about it. Many of us did just the same as Kerry. You can't put that story in today's context and talk about it. You need to have been there.

Kerry tried to stop a war, we all did.

[leftbend]

11. You are correct

Many, if not most Vets felt as Kerry did about the war. He had the opportunity and ability to articulate it in a public forum and many others did not.

[Jacobin]

14. Amen. I lived through those times and he was/is 100% correct

[jackstraw45]

10. DEM RESPONSE HAS TO BE THIS:

What was George Bush doing in 1971? Hanging in the "Champagne unit?"

We know he was AWOL in 1972.

Kerry is not perfect but he has, at least, been a TRUE public servant for over 30 years.

Youth is one thing but being a drunk and drug addict and being AWOL doesn't stack up in my book.

[tabasco]

13. Hell Georgie was a drunken playboy until he was 40.

Never worked a day in his life. Of course, the repugs respect this more than Bill Clinton working his way out of poverty through hard work and determination.

[H2O Man]

12. I thought it was a great story.

I'll tell you what: I'm writing another check to send to Kerry in the morning. I don't think there is any danger of people seeing him as a "60's radical." He was a war veteran. He joined in an effort that included a wide range of America, including those 60's radicals that we need now to help us fight against the monster (oops, old song I love), war veterans, RFK, MLK, and Tip O'Neill (once he listened to the veterans like Kerry). Do not underestimate the power of this story: identify more of the criminal Nixon creeps, the Iran-Contra crowd, and what do you get?

[DemoTex]

15. Kerry is running for president. Where is John O'Neil?

To me, the whole NBC report (I saw it twice tonight) was a free campaign ad for Kerry. Unless you are an atavistic chicken-hawk, like Patrick Buchanan, Nixon met his match with Kerry. The NBC report emphasized Kerry's service, his intelligence, and his unmatched eloquence. He handled the attack by Nixon with grace and dignity.

Meanwhile, where is the smarmy "little man" (as that fucking asshole called Kerry), John O'Neil? What the fuck did he do in Vietnam, Republic of? What has he done since?

[seabeyond]

16. one of my favorite lines of his is

how do you ask the last man to die

kerry needs to talk this. town meeting style with lots of vets. he has the experience of being there adn historically we know that war was wrong, so that is on his side. i know when i first came on here, i thought strongly this was something he was going to have to embrace, be honest about and own his words. and if there is a shift in htought express that and why.

again it has to be him not denying or running away from or apologize.

and i think truly with his experience and this particular war, it can be an even more grand event, it can be a time for healing for a lot of these people who were a part of it. i say make it grand. i listened to mountainman and his words, i dont know if it was him who first addressed me the last time we talked.

i do see strongly, this can be a real asset to kerry, and not in a manipulative and using political way.....but a forum to go thru this. think ultimately as a nation can put iraq in a perspective that is going to need healing too and maybe get it done sooner than 40 years

the row of clintons pictures inspires me, to reach for more

[seabeyond]

17. we have all summer to do this stuff

and bush co coming back calling kerry a liar, it is casue kerry didnt back down got traction, so they do what liars do, and throw it to opponent too and brings it to null and void, and then opponent has to quit going there cause silliness, liar, no you liar, no you liar..........