Delusional Friedman on Hardball Freaking Out

[Jacobin]

Jeeze this guy is a nitwit.

Basically saying Iraq conquest was a good idea to "install democracy" and WMD don't matter, and that Smirky should just come out and say that. Tweety says, well why not 10 other countries....Friedman stutters and says, well in ten years, Iraq will probably be a good country and "friendly to Israel".

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[eaprez]

1. He was for the war....

...before the first bomb dropped. Like the administration, he's got so much "pro war" rhetoric out there he can't back off of that position.

[KissMyAsscroft]

2. Makes sense to me!

America was founded to protect Israel, didn't you get the memo?;)

[bemildred]

3. "Jeeze this guy is a nitwit."

I think you got it. Thinks completely inside the box.
An unwitting stooge. What do they call them, "useful idiots".

[frank frankly]

5. friedman is a usefull idiot because his ego depends on him being BRILLIANT

the great mind of tom friedman! what a POS.

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[frank frankly]

4. friedman is...oh, i just hate him

it is hate

he makes me want to rip my head off and beat him with it

:mad:

[Mountainman]

6. If WMD don't matter would we have gone to preemptive war to bring democracy

If Bush would have said in his SOTU address that he wants this country to attack Iraq because we want to bring democracy to them he would have been laughed out of the building. Now that his stated reason to go to war is found to be bogus it then becomes OK to preemptively attack a country because we don't like their form of government. Bull crackers!

[CatWoman]

7. Hans Blix and David Kay coming up next

[Jacobin]

8. This should be a good counter-point to the idiocy

:-)

[frank frankly]

9. keep the details coming please, catwoman

:hi:

[k in IA]

12. Friedman was always for the Iraq war but not for the WMD BS,

more for human rights issues.

[Jacobin]

16. So, do you think he knew the WMD thing was BS and played along

to get his "humanitarian" wish?

[Hamlette]

18. he didn't play along with WMD

Friedman said "we should not go to war on the wings of a lie" and we should have a bigger more legit coalition. BUT, he was for the war not just for humanitarian reasons but he believes we can't have peace in the world unless we bring democracy to the middle east. BUT he also says you can't have democracy as long as all the oil money is flowing into those countries (why be democratic when you can "buy" the office and loyalty, either with giving everyone in the country lots of money as the Saudi's do OR with a strong arm.)

I think a higher percentage of Jewish people in this country supported the war because of the Israel issue. Some of my Jewish friends and I agree on all issues except Iraq.

[Jacobin]

21. I'm a bit more cynical about him than that

How do you get a "bigger more legit coalition" to invade and conquer a country to further the hegemony of the United States? You don't. He knows that no one could. He DID "go along with it", although at times pretending to want "more people to join the party". The title of a November 2002 article of his in the New York Slime was "Just Give War a Chance", a play on the chant of the sixties, just give peace a chance, and diminishing anyone opposed to the invasion as long-haired peacenik slackers who were uninformed and not well intentioned.

He's a whore alright. Just one who believes his own closely guarded principles are more important than other's are.

[CatWoman]

13. Hans is being pretty mild

he says it's quite possible that Saddam didn't know he had WMD.

Also, Saddam went on live TV at one of his sons stations, and declared that he had WMD in past (early nineties), but they had all been destroyed.

Both he and Tweety were musing as to what it would have taken * to believe him.

[Jacobin]

15. LOL, I liked the black cat comparison

He said the administration was like the witch hunters of Salem and that if they saw a black cat, they would conclude a woman was a witch!!

He was goooood

[CatWoman]

17. I also liked Hans' slap down of Cheney

and how Cheney viewed both inspections and inspectors "disdainful".

Hans had this crooked smile on his face when he said that :D

[Stephanie]

10. Smirky should have said it in the first place instead of lying

No Do-Overs

[Jacobin]

11. I wonder what the percentage of support for the invasion would have

been, had he told the "truth", admittedly a concept foreign to this administration..... 3%, 4%?

[Stephanie]

19. Chimpy: "Friends, America must rule the world & control all its resources.

Dick Cheney and his pal Wolfie want to rule the world, and my corporate overlords want to privatize and profit from everything that exists on the planet. For this reason, I have signed off on Dick's plan to conquer every nation that we don't like. I cannot be bothered with the details of this plan, but Dick assures me it will work. He was just whispering in my ear about it. I thought he said something like PNAC and Leo Struass, but then I started getting sleepy and now I just want a cheeseburger. Anyway, here's the plan.

Did you ever play Risk? Well, it's kind of like that. We'll be fighting many, many wars, probably for the next 50 years or so. We're going to topple Iraq first, then Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc. Once we control the ME we'll be moving on to the Korean peninsula and eventually to China. It's going to take all of your money and many of your sons. We will be doing this unilaterally and we'll alienate the entire world including our allies.

This geo-political strategy was cooked up by Dick's good friends over at the think tank, and Dick says it's a very good plan, so I agreed. In order to fulfill the strategy we will be doing whatever we can to demolish democratic institutions in this country, such as elections and balance of power and open government. We'll operate in secret and I'll tell whatever lies they put on the teleprompter.

In fact, I don't even know why I'm telling you this. Who cares what YOU think?

God bless amurrika."

Chimpy tells the truth

[BEZARK]

14. Some people's real motivation with Iraq I sadly suspect.

"in ten years, Iraq will probably be a good country and "friendly to Israel"

It was in the PNAC screed too.

[SoCalDem]

20. George was going to war NO MATTER WHAT

Tom has the whole "reason thing" bas-ackwards.. When Bush assumed the throne, Iraq was on the front burner, but he knew it would be hard to convince people, so he set out to give "the right people" their big ole honkin' tax cuts..(the donor class)..

9-11 comes along, and of course, now he has to wait a bit for Iraq, so off we go to Afghanistan, but he did not waste much time there, and then there were MORE tax cuts.. By now the treasury is just where he wants it..Money for the war and only the war..

It's a hard sell though because there is no tie-in to 9-11, so he and his merry band CREATED one.. People who are scared are not paying attention to the fact that we are BROKE...they just want to be safe..

Tax-cuts and two wars are just what the doctor ordered, for Bush, because now there is no money for anything else.. Now it's deficits as far as the eye can see, and the donors have their fat wads of cash to "loan" him for his next term..

Mission accomplished..

[BabsSong]

22. I often wondered what Friedman or Lieberman' s position would have

been if we were talking about an Asian country or a South American country, etc.?? It's becoming obvious that they can't separate any of this from Israel. Just like this country doesn't exist to give everyone in the world a job, this country doesn't exist to protect Israel even unto our own death. Let Lieberman and Friedman move to Israel and fight the good fight---what??--you say they are too cowardly to do so?? I find that that isn't unusual.

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