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Fargin Ice Hole Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:30 PM
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To "Quote" a Republican................
"Whatever America hopes to bring to pass in the world must first come to pass in the heart of America."

"We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security."

"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both"

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

"If men can develop weapons that are so terrifying as to make the thought of global war include almost a sentence for suicide, you would think that man's intelligence and his comprehension... would include also his ability to find a peaceful solution."

"We are tired of aristocratic explanations in Harvard words."

"The people of the world genuinely want peace. Some day the leaders of the world are going to have to give in and give, it to them."

-Dewight D. Eisenhower

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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:35 PM
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1. DDE, if you were still around
you'd puke at what the Republican Party has become.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:35 PM
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2. I like Ike...
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 08:36 PM by JohnLocke
...he was a decent Republican - a breed of which very few still are around.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:11 PM
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6. Right on, JohnLocke (if you'll pardon the expression)
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 09:13 PM by rocknation
There are Republicans, and there are the group of lying crooked religious fanatics who took the Republican party over. That's who John Kerry was talking about, and he even took pains to clarify that.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Offshore Bush Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:18 PM
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7. He most certainly was.
A great man.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:07 PM
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13. Ike really wasn't a Republican.
Like most military men he straddled between both parties as an independent. He ran as a Republican because he had to run against a Democrat, but his actions were very moderate during his administration.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:47 PM
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3. He was a patriot
Shrub, on the other hand, is simply a bag man for the military industrial complex Eisenhower warned us about. I wonder, if he were alive today would he choose to stand with us, as Clark did? I think so.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:03 PM
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5. He was just a soldier.
R and D were dying to have him on the ticket. For all we know his selection criteria may have been "eeny meeny miny moe".
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:53 PM
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12. **big grin** Sure ...
Rather like saying Bach was just a musician.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:44 AM
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14. It was meant as a compliment.
I said he seemed to be a patriot who didn't seem to have any tendencies to partisanship. "Soldier" as in "loyal to the country".
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:53 AM
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15. I bet a lot of old time Republicans would be Democrats today
All those "Rockefeller" Republicans from the Northeast in the 70s and 80s (Lowell Weicker from my home state of CT comes to mind)...
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:00 PM
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4. The last great Republican President
It has been all downhill since then with the Repubs.

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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Offshore Bush Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:25 PM
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10. Sure did.
After Ford we got

Nixon: Scheming, yet was moderate on domestic issues and had good relations w/ USSR and China.

Ford: More conservative version of Nixon.

Reagan: A scumbag demagogue who had idiots whacking off to his needlessly confrontational speeches and foreign policy.

Bush Sr.: Essentially a more scheming version of Ford who started the job exportation though tried to reverse the fiscal insanity of Ronald Reagan and told the "voodoo economists" to f___ off.

Bush Jr.: A figure-head for defense firms and corporate lobbyists and foreign policy think tanks. An all-around piece of trash who would fit in well with my 7 o clock shit lying in my toilet bowl.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:23 PM
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8. What an anti-american leftie asshole!
Who was this Eisenhower fellow? Musta been one of those commies back in the 50's. Obviously his comments are unpatriotic and shameful.

:eyes:

Oh, for a few more republicans like Ike.

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:23 PM
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9. While I respect a lot of what Ike said (and his WWII service), a lot...
of evil, especially CIA evil, went down on his watch.
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nayt Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:40 PM
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11. i have to agree
what is he talking about? weren't the fusion bomb and the first long range ballistic missiles invented on his watch? wasn't the cia freely creating havoc around the world?
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 09:10 AM
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16. This needs to be added to your list
From DDE's farewell address:

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence – economic, political, even spiritual – is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 09:14 AM
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17. Ike "got it"
Today, he would be a Democrraat and attacked as a traitor by republicans.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 10:26 AM
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18. I remember Ike and he was a decent sort but not overly bold
He made no bold proposals of any sort but kept America feeling good about ourselves as long as you weren't a woman or a black as they had "their place" during Ike's time.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:14 PM
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19. kicking, to hopefully shame a few lurking GOPers
:kick:
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