How is Dean going to lose DC?

[ButterflyBlood]

explain this to me. He's no further to the right economically than Clinton so don't say that would lose him the black vote, and besides what reason do blacks have to vote for Bush?

[JohnKleeb]

1. He wont that poster was nuts

[newsguyatl]

2. for real

seriously, butterfly, don't get bent out of shape over this... that detractor was just that... not to mention an idiot beyond words...

he/she doesn't merit this kind of attention

[whoYaCallinAlib]

3. Dean is perfect for DC.

I don't see what the argument would be any other way.

[Imajika]

4. Dean would not lose DC

The District is so overwhelmingly Democratic that not one of the Democrats running for the nomination would lose to Bush in the general election in DC.

There is a reason the GOP doesn't ever want DC residents to have full representation including 2 senators, they know full well that no Republican would ever win one of those seats.

Imajika

edited for spelling (twice)

[cherryperry]

5. Ima: PRECISELY! n/t

[w4rma]

6. Folks need to give this whole "electability" thing a rest

Dean is *extremely* electable. Why? He can fundraise. Noone can out fundraise Bush, but Dean can fundraise better than the other Democratic candidates can. Folks who think he isn't electable aren't used to hearing a decently funded populist candidate, but the months pass and Dean rises in the polls they'll reverse themselves.

Howard Dean
Cash on Hand Q1: $2.1 million
Raised Q2: $7.6 million
Cash spent Q2: $3.3 million
Cash on hand: $6.4 million

John Kerry
Cash on Hand Q1: $8.1 million
Raised Q2: $5.9 million
Cash spent Q2: $3.1 million
Cash on hand: $10.9 million

Joe Lieberman
Cash on Hand Q1: $1.8 million
Raised Q2: $5.1 million
Cash spent Q2: $2.9 million
Cash on hand: $4 million

John Edwards
Cash on Hand Q1: $5.7 million
Raised Q2: $4.5 million
Cash spent Q2: $2.1 million
Cash on hand: $8.1 million

Dick Gephardt
Cash on Hand Q1: $5 million
Raised Q2: $3.8 million
Cash spent Q2: $2.5 million
Cash on hand: $6.3 million

Bob Graham
Cash on Hand Q1: $1.1 million
Raised Q2: $2 million
Cash spent Q2: $1.3 million
Cash on hand: $1.8 million

Dennis Kucinich
Cash on Hand Q1: $51,000
Raised Q2: $1.5 million
Cash spent Q2: $0.5 million
Cash on hand: $1.1 million

[SEAburb]

7. They won't vote for Bush, they just won't vote

Dean's position on raising taxes across the board, eliminate child credits, he supports the marriage penalty. Dean's "return to fiscal sanity" means he will cut funding of social programs that have already been cut to the bone. The gay marriage issue, which most blacks don't support. Dean's has spent his life insulated in a white elitist society.

Minorities are going to have a hard time getting behind Dean.

[ButterflyBlood]

8. so you seriously think enough won't vote so that Dean loses DC?

seriously?

[SEAburb]

10. what does Dean have to offer to minorities, other than

not being Bush. I don't think that would be enough to bring them out to vote.

[TheDonkey]

13. Dean appeal's to minorites actually!

I was worried too that Dr. Dean being from Vermont and a life of not having to assoc with many people of color was a negative.

BUT I went and saw him in Pittsburgh during the National Urban League convention to a 99% black audience and my opinion radically changed. He hyped up the crowd more than even Al Sharpton, he is pro-Affirmative Action, and he talked with smooth confidence and comfort.

His much infamous line "It takes a white politician to talk to white people about race." in context got a standing ovation!

[Frances]

11. Where do you live?

I lived in Rockville MD (very near DC) from 1974-2002. If DC doesn't go Democratic, I'll eat a Rockville rock.

[Capn Sunshine]

14. Nice use of Roves talking points

or are they Liebermans?

[SEAburb]

16. those talking points are mine, give me credit, damn it / nt

..........

[carrowsboy]

9. Jealousy

It's been a great few weeks for Dean and they can't handle it.

BTW, my direct deposit goes through on Wednesday, so I'll be sending another contribution to Howard.

[Bertrand]

12. On Dean

I think he is actually a bigger threat to the republicans than what Rove likes to project. His insurgency has put the other real candidates on the offence agaisnt bush, which is different from the placating that has gone on post-9/11. He is different from the Mondale/Dukakis peacenik perception since he is aggressive with his beliefs. Actually, i think he has a bigger problem with being perceived as mean/arrogant rather than weak on defence.

[DemPopulist]

15. Of course Dean wouldn't lose DC

But I have to take issue with the assertion that Dean is no further to the right economically than Clinton. The '92 Clinton was quite progressive on economic issues. He was calling for middle-class tax cuts (though scaled down throughout the campaign), lots of public works spending or "investment" as it was called, and tax hikes on the wealthy. He was upfront about his free trade beliefs but fairly ambiguous on NAFTA. He really played *down* the importance of the deficit, in contrast to people like Paul Tsongas and Ross Perot, preferring to talk about the "middle-class squeeze" of the Reagan-Bush years. It wasn't until after the election that he started to side with the Robert Rubins over the Robert Reichs and take a more fiscally conservative stance. Supposedly he made a deal with Greenspan to take action on the deficit if Greenspan continued to bring rates down.

Dean is way more Tsongas than Clinton.