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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:49 PM
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Kerry should choose Clark for VP and he should do it soon!
It's clear that the only thing that Bush is going to be running on is this bizarre perception that he is a strong leader and that he's a "war president". With Wes Clark by his side it makes Kerry, a true war hero, appear that much more the strong leader in the area of military issues.

After Cheney's speech today it is clear to me that Clark is the antidote to the B.S. being spouted by a man who had "other priorities" when it was his turn to defend his country. The four star General and former NATO allied commander would be the perfect counter to Cheney. And if they are starting their attacks now and Cheney is going to be the bull dog then we need our bull dog too.

Kerry/Clark 2004 :toast:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:50 PM
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1. Nah, the later the better...
...but I do support Clark as a choice...

The later, the better. Less time for the media to totally smear the guy...
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:01 PM
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16. True that, Doc. True that.
:(

They will go ballistic if Kerry names Clark.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:52 AM
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27. Clark is very hard to smear
the media had to resort to completely ignoring him in the primaries.



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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:51 PM
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2. I'll drink to that!
:toast:

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Toronto Ron Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:54 PM
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3. Right on
One of the major reasons I was a Clarkie since last summer was his national security credentials, especially knowing that the b*sh bastards would use it as the main (if not sole) campaign issue (since clearly they can't run on anything else). I'll admit, though, that since Kerry effectively won the nomination I thought Edwards would make the best VP, with Clark ending up as Sec'y of State or National Security Advisor. But you're right, now it's clear that Clark needs to be on the ticket to maximize his exposure and strengthen the defense credentials of the ticket.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:58 PM
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4. a problem I have with Clark
is that he may have something they can use to smear him, true or not, with regard to this reason why he was removed as NATO supreme commander. They had Gen. Shelton, clearly an administration hack, saying that he couldn't support Clark for integrity reason, etc

Don't get me wrong, I like Clark, but we can't have any skeletons that these Bas***** can dredge up to discredit a democratic ticket.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:03 PM
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6. someone without skeletons?
Sorry, but it ain't gonna happen.

Clark has answered this a million times. He's said that he ruffled some feathers at the pentagon. Shelton has never said what he means by this. It's total and complete bullshit.

Clark is the perfect person for the job. I became convinced of that today.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:25 PM
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13. One person makes one remark one time
and it's a "skeleton?" By that standard, not only is everybody vulnerable, but everybody's got hundreds of closets full of skeletons.
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The Whiskey Priest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:00 PM
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5. As much as I admire General Clark


I hope that Kerry picks Edwards. We need a firebrand like Edwards.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:07 PM
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9. Well said!
I agree. Edwards is the "attack puppy" that this ticket needs. He's very articulate, quickwitted and knows how to relate to "plain folks". I think that is really what's needed on the ticket.

Frankly, and I know this is a stretch, I would look forward to a Kerry Edwards administration with Clinton as the Secretary of State.
Who better to get us back on a better footing in the world and make some progress in negotiations between Palestine and Isreal.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:03 PM
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17. But he does nothing to help Kerry's "problems" in the national..
security department.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:09 PM
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11. Clark should run for Congress instead.
Edwards' personality is a better complement to Kerry.

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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 08:21 AM
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26. There's no point in Clark running for Congress
His district is safely Democratic. I seriously doubt he would fit into the House of Reps culture anyway. What's more, both of Arkansas' Senate seats are held by Democrats.

However, if he really wants to get into politics at the executive level, he should run for governor of Arkansas. The state really needs a Dem to clean up the mess that Huckabee is going to leave once he vacates the Governor's Trailer in 2007.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:02 AM
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29. Agreed on this one
Governor is really the only place he could make "progress" by outing a Repub.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:04 PM
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7. Didn't you notice? Didn't you follow the primaries?
Democrats don't want or need the neo-con general. Clark has nothing to offer. He has no relevant experience, no viable ideas and no track record of supporting our party or it's ideals. Clark would harm the ticket and lessen Kerry's chances of victory in November. You think Nader won't make a difference? Watch what happens if we put Clark on the ticket.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:06 PM
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8. Clark's a neo-con?
When the fuck did that happen? :eyes:
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:07 AM
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30. Must be why I can't see that n/t
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:27 PM
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15. Too absurd
to answer, except to say you must never have heard any of his speeches or read any of his policy papers.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:07 PM
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20. I have.
Would you care to point out an example of just what the fuck you are talking about?
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:09 PM
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21. Sorry Sparky
For a second I thought you were agreeing with the neo-con comment.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:08 PM
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10. I agree.....we need both barrels firing.....Kerry and Clark...
Clark is clear and concise in his explanation of how Bush used Iraq as a distraction....
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:16 PM
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12. Don't jump the gun
The Shrub Co. has only fired their first salvo. Now I am not one to give then too much credit, but I also don't underestimate them. We need to wait as long as we can to get a VP on the ticket.

This doesn't mean that we can't have Clark and Edwards hitting the pavement as surrogates, in fact that is exactly what we should do for a few reasons. One of them being that Clark can address national security issues. Another and more important reason is that we could fuel a media feeding frenzy as they try and figure out who the VP will be, giving us a shit-load of free media attention and perhaps giving Kerry some really good re-con on who to choose as his VP.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:25 PM
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14. I thought Kerry's war hero status was the trump card for that
another fine mess...
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:05 PM
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18. Yup. Clark is da man - DU's favorite by a landslide too
And I also agree the later the better, or at least let Bush/Roverer lay out their entire campaign planks and then bring Clark in.

http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:07 PM
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19. All in due time, grasshopper.
All in due time...
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:10 PM
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22. or John Edwards
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:11 PM
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23. I think he should pick Clark too but...
..what's the hurry?
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 08:10 AM
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24. I totally agree. Kerry has to get going.
And Clark is the one.

I can't think of any reason for delaying this.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 08:13 AM
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25. I'll take Clark also.
The ex-general's further endorsement of Kerry by being on the ticket helps diffuse this bullshit about Kerry not supporting the military via his congressional voting record.

I love the rest of the possibilities as well, they'll make great VP's. But if Bushco can only run on national security, then we need to wipe them out on that. Putting Clark on the ticket might force them to talk about domestic issues.

As for needing a bulldog, I think Clark can handle the campaign. I think is question is, whether his family is in it. One reporter said he heard that Gert might not be in for that fight. Anyone know more about this?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:55 AM
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28. Clark is such a great fighter
during the primaries, Clark had some of the best moments, and he gets credit for standing by Michael Moore and raising the whole AWOL thing.

Imagine Clark debating Cheney...

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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:28 AM
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32. Clark for VP
I think that Wesley Clark would make an excellent VP candidate. That idiot delay brought up the "character" issue about WC on Meet the Press (this was before Clark announced) and when Russert asked him for details, delay turned coy. I think that Clark is the type of person who in order to get the job does, does whatever it takes, including ruffling some feathers. He is very intelligent also, which unfortunately probably bothered some people in the Pentagon who were not up to his level intellectually. He is a genuine American success story - born into modest circumstances who rose to the top of his profession.
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:24 AM
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31. didn't think so before...but now i do
I did support the guy for the nomination but i thought a more polished politician for VP would be the way to go.
Now, after seeing the approach the repugs are going to use it it clear that the only way to parry all this nat sec grandstanding is for Clark to be the choice.
Clark alone could counter all of this crap oozing out of Cheney's pie-hole, that stubby little prik.
The repugs would have some fun claiming that neither man knows who he is due to their "waffling"(clark-rep or Dem, Kerry-well, where do we start) but that would take them only so far.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:58 AM
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33. Absolutely Clark for VP
Edwards does not bring the national security and froeign policy credentials that Clark brings. As for the "integrity" remark it could be cleared up very simply by Shelton who was at the time working for Edwards say he was sorry and it was just the heat of the presidential primary and "taken out of context"
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:33 PM
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34. Clark soon !
Well he better pick someone soon Clark or not. I was for Clark and Clark has a pretty big following. From the midwest and former NATO supreme commander ! He needs an attack dog front and center RIght about yesterday !
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:35 PM
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35. Don't panic, and don't believe the hype.
Karl Rove wants you to quiver in fear every time the cartel attacks Kerry. Don't let Rove and the 24-hour news media drive your emotions. We still have 8 months.

I do like Clark for VP, though.
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