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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 08:55 PM
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Dean:I am tired of having...our best jobs...shifted elsewhere in the world
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While U.S. unemployment improved in June, Dean said it’s still at a nine-year high and ignores the underemployed, which he pegged at 6 percent.

“These are people who had $50,000 good jobs and now they are making $25,000 or $30,000, and they have two of them, in some cases,” Dean said. “I am tired of having an economy where our best jobs are shifted elsewhere in the world.’’

Dean fans made up a thick portion of the crowd, often turning Dean’s 25-minute stump speech into a rally of revival proportions with interrupted calls of “amen’’ and “yes, yes.’’
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 08:59 PM
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1. That's it, Dean--jump on "outsourcing" with both feet!
This is an issue that will bring the swing voters--25% of all IT jobs will be in India or other cheap labor countries in the next 5 years--unless we elect someone that will take the issue head on. I tell ya, Dean has his ear to the ground, not in the polling shops.
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I Lean Left Donating Member (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:04 PM
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2. I will vote for the candidate that addresses this issue the best
I'm in IT (so is my wife) and I got laid off in February. Got hired back three months later at a 25% pay cut. We're in constant fear of losing our jobs. There are a lot of us at work who have been writing to our congressman and senators without response on the outsourcing issue.

If they want my vote, they are going to have to speak about this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:08 PM
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3. The only place to have your "ear"!, annagull!
Where it's really happening!

I love this guy!
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jagguy Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:11 PM
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4. this is a big issue for 2004
jobs in general of course but exported jobs moreso.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:14 PM
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7. In my opinion, this is THE issue...agreed.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:12 PM
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5. And the freaky repugnants and dinos are telling us that
"National Security" is an issue when they are the neaderthals who are making us Not Secure!

You Go Dean! I'm so Happy I chose the right candidate many months ago! I want bush to get out of Gore's House and I wanted the right person to do it..not just some ol' dino.
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sugargoose Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:44 PM
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9. A poll I saw recently had national security
as a priority for well below 10% of the population.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:14 PM
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6. Hooooly crap.
He just hit on The Motherlode. This is THE issue that will seal the deal.

They're complaining about the Chimp on this issue at Freeperville. I'd love to see this posted over there. Any volunteers? I've been banned..


Dr Dean: if you're reading this, please please please get all over this issue! It will win you the White House!
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:14 PM
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8. Will Dean support minimum wage like Kucinich and Gephardt?
If Dean would publically support the international minimum wage that Kucinich and Gephardt do, it would go a long way to explain his support for NAFTA and the other corporate trade agreements. He says he wants to add labor and environmental protections, he should start with the most obivous one, an international minimum wage.
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AntiLempa Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:01 PM
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11. Clintonese
Dean is busy speaking Clintonese when it comes to NAFTA. He says that we should add environmental safeguards to NAFTA, but they are already there. In fact, he sounds much like Clinton when it comes to trade. To make matters worse he is trying to claim he supports fair trade.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:18 PM
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21. Thank you for saying that
Dean is against outsourcing but what does he plan to do about? The IMW is the most important issue in this campaign, IMHO. Thankfully we have two candidates supporting it.
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AntiLempa Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:59 PM
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10. NAFTA
How can he say this and support NAFTA? It sounds like the governor wants to have his cake and eat it too.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:03 PM
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12. Dean supporters ...
I read the article and m left with one question: will his solution to outsourcing (layoffs of Americans to boost corporate profits when it can be done more cheaply overseas) and unemployment going to be discussed in the economic speech in September?

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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 12:49 AM
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20. Dean and Forbes-Kerry try to avoid the NAFTA/jobs and outsourcing issue?
If Forbes-Kerry and Dean are what they say they are, they will come out strongly in support of American jobs, and against outsourcing and for a minimum wage that will help everyone in our new global economy. They both try to claim a pro-worker, pro-employee, anti-corporate position, but so far it's all talk and no action.

If Kerry and Dean try to avoid the issue, I will certainly vote for Gephardt or especially Kucinich, who is not afraid of GE or FOX or AOLTimeWarnerYaddaYadda. Kucinich has really told it like it is, I hope the Democratic party follows Kucinich's lead.

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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:47 PM
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13. What are the proposed ways to stop the outsourcing?
It's a big issue. My company moved its phone banks to the Philippines.

The imternational minimum wage I guess I don't understand? The can we tell a shopkeeper in Mozambique what he has to pay his clerks?
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 11:04 PM
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14. In that case, Dean should stop supporting NAFTA. "Free" trade

benefits the cheap labor conservatives whose goal is oligarchy with cheap labor as its base.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 11:06 PM
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15. yes dembbones totally good point
NAFTA and the WTO are the basis of the bad that has happened economically.
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 11:25 PM
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16. Dennis is allllll over this issue...
I think Dean has noticed his lack of labor backing...
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 11:36 PM
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17. yes, Dean is noticing the backlash for his pro-corporation stands
I was really happy about the "lost...job...Dean..." posting a little while ago. I would be so bold as to say we are having an impact.
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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 12:36 AM
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19. Do you ever say any thing else?
You have been all over the DU all weakend with that line. When are you going to back it up? Never, comes to mind.

Indead, his speech makes him quite distant from any pro-corpertate position.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 11:39 PM
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18. Big time winner!
Bush sent your job to India--cheap labor reps--
move offshore and don't pay taxes!

Once again, Dean leads, others follow.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:32 PM
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22. i saw the best jobs of my generation...
destroyed by madness...

strange what you see in thread titles when you've not slept in two days.
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