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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 09:38 PM
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Jimmy Carter piles on * and Blair
Keep it coming, Dems :D
Carter savages Blair and Bush: 'Their war was based on lies'
By Andrew Buncombe in Atlanta
22 March 2004

Jimmy Carter, the former US president, has strongly criticised George Bush and Tony Blair for waging an unnecessary war to oust Saddam Hussein based on "lies or misinterpretations". The 2002 Nobel peace prize winner said Mr Blair had allowed his better judgement to be swayed by Mr Bush's desire to finish a war that his father had started.

In an interview with The Independent on the first anniversary of the American and British invasion of Iraq, Mr Carter, who was president from 1977 to 1981, said the two leaders probably knew that many of the claims being made about Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction were based on imperfect intelligence.

He said: "There was no reason for us to become involved in Iraq recently. That was a war based on lies and misinterpretations from London and from Washington, claiming falsely that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11 attacks, claiming falsely that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. And I think that President Bush and Prime Minister Blair probably knew that many of the allegations were based on uncertain intelligence ... a decision was made to go to war 'Let's find a reason to do so'."

http://news.independent.co.uk/low_res/story.jsp?story=503722&host=3&dir=508
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 09:41 PM
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1. Wow! This is very unusual.
Former presidents are usually careful to make only supportive comments about the president in charge.

I don't recall Carter making any kind of statement along these lines during previous administrations.

I think that this is one more sign of the wheels falling off the Bush wagon. People are really angry.

I hope the voters get the news.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:17 PM
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8. Right--this is real hardball now
Former Presidents always stand in polite regard for one another and the sitting office holder. For JC to criticize Bush to this degree, it signifies a very high level of open hostility toward the Bush regime. Excellent.
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freeforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 09:44 PM
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2. Amen Jimmy!
I agree that it is unusual for a former president to speak out, but he is probably well aware of the danger of * getting back into office. Americans really need to pay attention to this.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 09:53 PM
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3. As Clarke quoted Rumsferatu.....
"There's better targets in Iraq...."

Rummy's no fool, he knew he needed footage of buildings blowing up to get the orgasmic train rolling in his screening room....

Iraq, at the worst, should seem to your average Murkan as a totally UN-NEEDED "side-trip" that took resources and time away from tracking down Osama bin-Forgotten.

And at best, they should see it for the PNAC "Manifest Destiny" move it is.

This is the "Talking Point" I use:
"Why was A-Q able to blow up those trains in Madrid? Because our 'Manly President' wasted time settling his Daddy's score with a petty tyrant in Bagdhad. Who knows what else bin-Laden has been working on while we waste time and lives trying to get Halliburton into the Iraqi oil business? Every soldier killed in Iraq is one less going after Osama. Or is Osama bin-Forgotten not that important anymore?"
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:04 PM
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4. Thank you Jimmy
once again.
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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:13 PM
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5. Bush's brain......?
With visions of the Richard Clarke Spectre dancing

in his skull, what sort of nightmare

could be festering in Karl Rove's vibrating ganglia?
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rocktop15 Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:16 PM
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6. Always fight the good fight, Jimmy.
I'm glad he is outspoken. It looks like the masses eyes are starting to finally open. Clarke is all over the news, Carter speaking out, etc.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:16 PM
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7. About time Jimmy!
Damn! of course the whore media wouldn't have covered him anyway.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:58 PM
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10. Carter has been speaking out for a long time now.
This is nothing new.

Ex-US President Jimmy Carter Slams 'Arrogant' US Foreign Policy
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1116-01.htm

Just War — or a Just War?
by Jimmy Carter
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0309-02.htm

He even criticized Clinton for Kosovo.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:24 PM
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9. As if we DUers didn't know all that a year and a half ago...nobody in
public life back then had the cojones to say it out loud. I guess better late than never...
:eyes:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 11:09 PM
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11. Carter wrote an open letter
against invading Iraq at the time.
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