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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:04 PM
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Clarke says Rice acted as if she never heard of Al-Qaida
Edited on Sun Mar-21-04 10:05 PM by rmpalmer
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=544&u=/ap/20040322/ap_on_go_pr_wh/terrorism_adviser_18&printer=1

President Bush (news - web sites)'s national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites), "looked skeptical" when she was warned early in 2001 about the threat from al-Qaida and appeared to never have heard of the terrorist organization, according to Bush's former counterterrorism coordinator.

"Her facial expression gave me the impression that she had never heard the term before," wrote Richard A. Clarke in a new book that is scathingly critical of Bush's response to the 2001 terror attacks against New York and Washington. The Associated Press obtained a copy of Clarke's book before its Monday publication.

Clarke said Rice, who previously worked for Bush's father, appeared not to recognize post-Cold War security issues and effectively demoted him within the national security council. He said Rice has an unusually close relationship with Bush, which "should have given her some maneuver room, some margin for shaping the agenda."

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Clarke added: "One shudders to think what additional errors (Bush) will make in the next four years to strengthen the al-Qaida follow-ons: attacking Syria or Iran, undermining the Saudi regime without a plan for a successor state?"

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"We believe the timing is questionable," Bartlett said. "When (Clarke) left office, he had every opportunity" to make any grievances known.



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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:08 PM
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1. My husband was reading that to me.
Absolutely unbelieveable! The level of incompetence was unbelievable. Instead of learning from her new subordinates about what was going on for the last eight years, she demoted the one guy who could have gotten her up to speed.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:09 PM
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2. Don't forget to rate the article
so it stays on Yahoo's front page
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:26 PM
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7. Yes--DO IT....
It's only got a 3.45 rating right now--this needs to be kicked up ASAP.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:39 PM
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12. I did rate it 5, but do those ratings actually do anything? I really wond
wonder...
:eyes:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:11 PM
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3. She was a SOVIET UNION "specialist"
She has NO serious credentials to perform her assigned duties..She's a Bush crony and he job was pure patronage..
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:34 PM
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9. uh.... she was an OIL EXECUTIVE

the ONLY thing that mattered for a bushco apppointee
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:51 PM
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13. That too, but she was touted as a "fabulous" foreign policy expert..
Edited on Sun Mar-21-04 10:51 PM by SoCalDem
Maybe she WAS, but the operative word is....WAS.. The Soviets were long extinct, as a world power.... before they stole the white house, and her expertise was worth ZIP..ZILCH...

Kind of like having a vet who specializes in Mastodons, do-do birds, and saber-toothed tigers..
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:46 AM
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18. I know someone from academia that served with her
on an advisory panel for Bush Sr. and his wife told me in early 2001 that he laughed when he heard she had been placed in such a high position. He said that Rice never even showed up and none of the academics was impressed with her in the least.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:13 PM
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4. As a DUer famously pointed out years ago...
...Dr. Rice is an expert on a country that no longer exists. She's an incompetent and should never have been picked for the job in the first place. She is little more than window dressing.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:23 AM
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16. but she insists on being called "Dr" Rice.
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 08:25 AM by WoodrowFan
she gets really really pissy I am told if you call her anything but "DOCTOR Rice." Hey, I'm entitled to the "Dr" in front of my name too but I only use it in particular professional circumstances. It's bad form to use it all the time.... I bet she's one of those people who put the "Dr" on her checks!!! LOL


(Thanks for sharing the article BTW)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:55 AM
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19. Condi Rice is as relevant as a typewriter repairman
If that is what you are referrring to.

Yes she is a "Sovietologist" trained on the politics, propaganda, and military of the cold war. Clarke's comments last night about how W&Co. came into office still concerned with Cold War matters adds justification to what was clearly obvious before.

If Condi was the National Security Adviser and national security failed why wasn't she fired? And her claims (see my talking points thread from last night) that Clarke must not have been a very good counterterrorism czar if we had all those attacks on US interests in the 90's are behold hypocritical.

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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:13 PM
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5. She got where she is at by exactly those methods
obviously she has nothing else and that is really a tragedy. I wonder how it is that such an incompetant has been so lauded at all. To the point where a huge oil tanker is named after her. She is certaily not up to this job. What has she done and what has she contributed to us tax payers who pay her salary: Nothing.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:38 PM
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11. SS Condi Rice is no more
To the point where a huge oil tanker is named after her

Marianne, they removed Condi's name from the oil tanker some time ago. The optics of it all didn't make for great PR, (having an important personage within the Bush administration so prominently linked to a big money grubbing oil company) so the oil tanker got renamed.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:26 PM
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6. Wow! Didn't think it was possible to be as dumb as Dumbya. n/t
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:28 PM
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8. Kick--Remember to rate this article!
:kick:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:36 PM
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10. An incompetent advising an incompetent...
It's worse than we thought.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:54 PM
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14. isn't it just sick how these Yahoo stories get freeped?
It disgusts me to no end to realize that there are people out there who wish to hide the truth.

The truth is their enemy. What the FUCK is wrong with these people?
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 11:06 PM
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15. They're sheep going to slaughter.
Most of them aren't in any better position that you, or I. Probably a lot of them are a lot worse, but sticking their nose up the rich guys' asses make the feel in some way superior. Never mind while their nose is up the ass the rich guy is stabbing them in the back.
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jeanmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:40 AM
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17. "No one could ever think that they could use planes as weapons"
Condi is either a liar or incompetent. Wait, she's both incompetent and a liar!
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