OMG - This Has Legs: Re: Clarke Interview Last Night - CNN This Morning

[matcom]

Headlineing it. Condi coming out to 'defend' the chimp.

its rolling.

it has legs. he lied. he did nothing. he slept. people died.

it has legs folks.

spread it far and wide.

[chimpymustgo]

1. but Sharon's murder of Yassin is getting top billing.

Today Show will have Condi on, then Wes Clark.

C-SPAN doing Hamas.

[Florida_Geek]

2. Clarke pointed too many fingers at Condi

and once ppl see her defending *, hopefully they will understand she is also defending herself.

[chimpymustgo]

4. condi on Today now.

nt

[tobius]

3. i don't understand. i thought that the media was a big cabal

controlled by BFEE and michael powell. why would they let this story be a headline anywhere?

[chimpymustgo]

5. Condi slams Clarke.

now showing clip of Clarke from 60 Minutes.

Matt alludes to O'Neill's points about Iraq as well.

[tobius]

9. oh cool, a blow by blow accounting of the morning news!

how's matt's hair today?

[TomNickell]

13. A big cabal, controlled by big corporations....

Incompetence isn't good for business.

Neither are devastating terrorist attacks and catastrophic military adventures.

[Kazak]

20. The media is a bigger animal than they can control...

They can only affect a certain influence.

[RedEagle]

23. The Media

There is a fine line between supporting your favorite politician and letting that same politician take you down with him.

Ultimately, the media will do just enough to protect their own interests.

The danger for them does not lie in unseating Bush.

The danger lies in losing control (i.e., having more of the radical right in congress) of how many get expelled from office over this. The neo-con GOP could lose control of congress as well. That would not be in the best interests of big media, so they will offer up a sacrifice and hope the public focuses all of their attention in one direction. Please see the tree and not the forest type of thing.

Besides, the media is out to make money. If you can't sell advertising because people can't buy things because of a bad economy because of a contrived war- well, in the end, they lose too.

[frank frankly]

37. the media is the biggest problem

don't you see that? or did i misinterpret you...?

[Spentastic]

6. Any minute now

Someone will say "drip drip drip" If the "drip drip drip" theory were true the Bush regime would have drowned by now.

This will go nowhere. The media will toe the line and at worst Condi will be made to feel mildly uncomfortable.

[TomNickell]

14. Drip, Drip, Drip

They're up to their necks.

Just a few drops more....

[Mistress Quickly]

15. I agree

this will stick with Bush as well as O'Neill did, and the Plame affair, and Halliburton, and AWOL etcetcetcetcetc

[Spentastic]

18. I just don't get it

People seem to be kidding themselves that somehow the media are going to rebel against their masters and tell the truth.

It's not going to happen. There is no point in hoping it will happen.

How many more times am I going to watch these people keep running into Bush's outstretched fist?

[chimpymustgo]

7. Wes Clark on Today hammering Condi.

Did not put the emphasis where it belonged - threat of Al Quaeda.

[chimpymustgo]

8. Ann's hysterical accusing Wes of supporting the war.

Clarks smacks her down, she counters that well Kerry did.

Wes handled that well.

[smartass]

10. We mustn't blame Condi cause if we do that just means that

we're supporting terrorism.

[Zech Marquis]

11. it's the leading news story in Japan

Yomiuri ripped him a new one, and the way they quoted * was NOT in a good light either. The cat is out of the bag!

[Kahuna]

12. Really? The front page of my newspaper has no mention..

of this story.

Above the fold is a story about notorious fugitives, and "Israeli missles kill top militant. Below the fold has the "pledge of allegiance" case and a story a story about medicare cards. The Clarke story is on page six.

[underpants]

16. USA Today,WP, and even Richmond Times-Dispatch front page

below the fold in the T-D which is often cited as a source on Fox News.

[Kazak]

22. Might wanna cancel your subscription.

;)

[spanone]

29. Nor does my newspaper. Owned by Gannett. USA Today paper-lite.

We wouldn't want controversy on the front page now, would we?

[shanti]

34. mine doesn't either - sacramento bee

this is some bullshyt....

[underpants]

17. Fox at first ignored it-NBC said it was accusaitons towards Rice

Fox then came back and focused only on the "trying to create a Saddam-alQaeda link" part.

They were of course dismissive of the whole thing.

[swag]

19. Legs: It made at least 2 of three local news broadcasts in Portland

this morning. If anything can penetrate that miasma of confusion and propaganda, it has legs.

The stories were rather damning, by the way.

[dryan]

21. Clarke interview on 60 Minutes

I think that the Clarke interview on 60 Minutes was very damaging to the bush administration. They have tried to paint Paul O'Neill as a bitter fired cabinet member and now they are going after Richard Clarke who was a career administrator. These people have no shame!

[Kazak]

24. VERY damning.

I was watching in jaw-dropped awe.

[underpants]

28. Richmond NBC station had ~10 seconds on it and said it was about Rice

They said accusations were made towards Condi. :eyes:

[Lisa0825]

25. Houston local news played a clip from the 60 minutes broadcast too.

I know that's not a huge deal, but the more times it gets repeated, the better. And this is Daddy Bush's hometown, so I'm happy to see anything negative about them locally.

[Beetwasher]

26. One Of the Most DEVASTATING Interviews I've Ever Seen

Clarke's credibility is beyond reproach. He worked for 4 different admins, both Repub and Dem.

I certainly hope this does have legs.

When is Kerry getting back from vacation? I expect that will be news in itself and he's studying Clarke's book. You know that Kerry is going to be talking about this.

[underpants]

27. Stahl:There is a lot of rage in this book

Clarke:There should be (end of interview)

Yes it was very damning.

[Beetwasher]

30. Wasn't that Great?!

I loved it!

[0007]

31. No word of the the Richard Clarke

tell all - and his scathing book in the West Texas morning newspapers (OdessaAmerican & Midland Reporter)

But I did hear on the news this morning that Condoleezza Rice is gearing up for the fight with Richard Clarke by flossing her teeth with Mike Tyson's jump rope.

[indigo11153]

36. I saw her spinning

on CNN. Me thinks the lady doth protest too much. She sounded really defensive. That can't be the plan. LOL It was total babble from the queen of de nile.

[seemslikeadream]

32. Monday's NYT story on Clarke's revelations is written by Judith Miller.

Nota Bene: Monday's New York Times story on Richard Clarke's revelations is written by Judith Miller. Quite a choice -- and problematic for a number of reasons. See Jack Shafer's latest on this from just last month.

-- Josh Marshall

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

Miller Time (Again)
The New York Times owes readers an explanation for Judith Miller's faulty WMD reporting.
By Jack Shafer
Posted Thursday, Feb. 12, 2004, at 2:53 PM PT



Judy's turn to cry

Michael Massing flushes New York Times reporter Judith Miller out of her spider hole this week with "Now They Tell Us," a 7,000-word analysis in the New York Review of Books about the press corps' failure to see through the Bush administration's weapons of mass destruction hype. Writes Massing:

In the period before the war, US journalists were far too reliant on sources sympathetic to the administration. Those with dissenting views—and there were more than a few—were shut out. Reflecting this, the coverage was highly deferential to the White House. This was especially apparent on the issue of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction—the heart of the President's case for war. Despite abundant evidence of the administration's brazen misuse of intelligence in this matter, the press repeatedly let officials get away with it.

Massing levels special scorn at Miller, whose WMD journalism published before the Iraq war, as he footnotes, elicited critical reviews in the Nation, Editor & Publisher Online, AJR, and CJR, and by me in Slate. Responding to Massing's criticism that she channeled the administration's spotty WMD case, Miller blames U.S. intelligence for the discrepancies between what she reported about Iraqi WMD before the war and the latest findings of the weapons hunters. "The fact that the United States so far hasn't found WMD in Iraq is deeply disturbing," she tells Massing. "It raises real questions about how good our intelligence was. To beat up on the messenger is to miss the point."

http://slate.msn.com/id/2095394

[librechik]

35. NYT unconscionable whore in this matter

HOW DARE THEY!!!

This could be the worst battle with the media of all.

Write them, call them, stand outside the offices until they COVER THE TRUTH!!!

[seemslikeadream]

41. the passage has now been revised

This is all at www.talkingpointsmemo.com


In the version of Miller's article that ran last night there was this passage ...

Clarke also said that Tom Ridge, the president's first domestic security adviser and head of the Department of Homeland Security, opposed the creation of his own department on the grounds -- accurate ones in Clarke's view -- that it would be too costly and difficult to integrate with other agencies. Clarke said Ridge had to clear major statements and actions with Andrew H. Card Jr., the president's chief of staff.
In an interview Sunday night, Brian Roehrkasse, a spokesman for the department, denied that Ridge was against the creation of the department and said the department did not have to go through any more clearance with the White House than other Cabinet departments.


Apparently, the Times already realized it had a problem because the passage has now been revised to ...

Mr. Clarke also said that Tom Ridge, the president's first domestic security adviser and head of the Department of Homeland Security, opposed the creation of his own department on grounds, accurate ones in Mr. Clarke's view, that it would be too costly and difficult to integrate with other agencies. Mr. Clarke said that Mr. Ridge had to clear major statements and actions with Andrew H. Card Jr., the president's chief of staff.
In an interview Sunday night, Brian Roehrkasse, a spokesman for the department, denied that.


The Times current article is here; but you can see the earlier version, preserved in amber shall we say, over here at the website of the Indianapolis Star.

-- Josh Marshall

Ex-aide: Al-Qaida threat ignored
3 soldiers killed in Iraq

By Judith Miller
March 22, 2004
.......
Clarke also said that Tom Ridge, the president's first domestic security adviser and head of the Department of Homeland Security, opposed the creation of his own department on the grounds -- accurate ones in Clarke's view -- that it would be too costly and difficult to integrate with other agencies. Clarke said Ridge had to clear major statements and actions with Andrew H. Card Jr., the president's chief of staff.

In an interview Sunday night, Brian Roehrkasse, a spokesman for the department, denied that Ridge was against the creation of the department and said the department did not have to go through any more clearance with the White House than other Cabinet departments.

http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/131478-1118-010.html

[YIMA]

33. It's unraveling

[swag]

38. One more note about last night's 60 Min airing in Portland

Immediately before 60 Mins, there was a Bunnypants "War President" ad. Then of course the show and the complete destruction of everything in that sorry-assed ad.

PS - Oregonian buried the Clarke story in today's paper. Their editorial board and their public editor have also failed to contact me about recent notes I have sent to them concerning their failure to fulfill their obligations as agents of the press in a democracy.

Keep the heat on. Sens, Reps, Press, Pres.

[veracity]

39. TVNL has a special deal on the Clarke book....

TvNewsLies.org is offering BOTH the Clarke's book, "Against All Enemies" and the Paul O’Neil book, "The Price of Loyalty", for a singletax deductible donation of $40! Both books for $40! The combined list price of these books is $53! They have a limited supply.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/donate.html

[dryan]

40. Clarke Interview and the media

In my opinion, the media in this country has been asleep at the wheel when it comes to the bush administration since January 20, 2001. It seems that unless sex is involved, they aren't interested.