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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:13 AM
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"I don't know what he is talking about"...Condi comes clean with TRUTH
When asked to respond to Clarkes charges that Irag was #1 on the hit parade for invasion, Condi states this AM, "I have no idea what he is talking about", finally admitting she and the crooked ones all were wearing ear plugs.


"Being stupid is no way to go through life." Dean Wormer to Flounder in "Animal House".
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:21 AM
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1. And I guess we didn't invade Iraq either, huh condi?
And that mean old Clarke guy is just a partisan hack. Why would anyone tell lies about george bush, THE man of integrity and honesty. And why should you have listened to another partisan hack, Sandy Berger back in 2000 and 2001? Boy, it sure is good for America that the adults are now in charge.
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Torgo4 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:35 AM
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4. Dean Wormer?
"Fat, Drunk & Stupid is no way to go through life son."

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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:42 AM
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7. thanks....I knew it was funnier than my post
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:02 AM
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11. and i just bet bush was on double secret probation at yale
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Grins Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:22 AM
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21. TAKE THAT BACK!!
Bush was NOT fat! After all, he was a cheerleader.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:22 AM
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2. You have just seen a real life pathological liar
A real life pathological liar is indeed rare. One who's nature/body chemistry is one that compels this person to lie and believe with all their being that the lie is the truth. Condi Rice is a rare specimen of a true pathological liar.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:41 AM
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6. No, she's just too dim to know better
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:04 AM
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14. She had better watch out or she will be on the line with Powell.
They all must protect King Rat.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:26 AM
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22. The Uni That Awarded Her A Ph. D. Must Be SO Proud
What a maroon! Is there any thinking person, anywhere, that actually thinks she's an expert on anything?
The Professor
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:28 AM
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26. Must have been one of those Ph. D's you get online
or maybe mail order. The woman definitely is pretty dumb to be in such a high position.
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nodictators Donating Member (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:49 AM
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25. C'mon, the Bush regime is rife with pathlogical liars.
They are not rare at all in their WH.

And thousands have paid with their lives because of Bush and his gang of liars.

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DevinDNC Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:24 AM
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3. Condi proved her incompetence long ago
Condi doesen't know much about anything...She is no MENSA candidate.
Besides why any African-American would be a Republican is as idiotic as why any of us Irish would be Republicans.
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Gunit_Sangh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:39 AM
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5. I was disgusted with..
the way she tried to pin the blame on Clarke for the attacks that did succeed in Clinton's administration. She recited the list and the implication was that these all occurred while he was the counter-terrorism czar, he was partly responsible for them, and what was needed was a new approach.


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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:47 AM
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8. "New Approach" = Head In Sand
"New Approach" = Iraq Responsible For Everything

Worked real well, too.

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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:51 AM
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9. She sure had her trousers twisted on GMA
Why doesn't she set the record straight by testifying before the 9/11 Commission. Afraid of perjury charges?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:03 AM
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13. She really sounded on the verge of losing control
Her voice was shaking. I thought she was about the burst into tears. I think we can score this one a direct hit.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:00 AM
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10. Dean Wormer's quote:
Dean Wormer: Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

Sorry, just picking nits. That happens to be one of my favorite quotes. :-)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:44 AM
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24. Mine, too.
I was just about to pick the same pointless nit. :evilgrin:

"The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me."

"May I have ten thousand marbles, please?"
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:02 AM
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12. "He doesn't know what he is talking about" Gibson said she said that
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 09:09 AM by underpants
Maybe I am messing up what he said she said but as they came back at 7:30 Charles Gibson said that they continued the interview and said the above quote attributed to Rice and that they would show it in the 8:00 half hour. I missed it as I was on my way to work.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:22 AM
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15. She also said: "We needed a PLAN, not a meeting." As if that was all...
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 09:25 AM by Brotherjohn
... the head of counter-terrorism was interested in when he had a meeting to discuss a very specific and targeted PLAN to take on Al Qaeda.

Condi dismissed Clarke's suggestions as ones that were rejected by the Clinton Administration. WTF!? If they were rejected by the Clinton admin., the Clinton admin wouldn't be suggesting you implement them! It wasn't just Clarke, recommending the Clinton administration's PLAN. It was outgoing National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, and I think it was Clinton himself who decided not to go forward with the PLAN during the transition, thinking it was better to wait until the new administration took over. He didn't reject it, he only thought it was better to wait a few weeks until the transition had occurred.

Then she said that the Bush admin. took up some of the suggestions (presumeably after 9-11). But why, Condi, if the suggestions were so bad? Why, if they were "rejected by the Clinton administration"?

Condi is a master at talking out of both sides of her mouth. I don't know how she keeps up with her own lies.

Regarding the claim that the Bush administration in fact DID take up the suggestions of the Clinton administration (but I don't know why, since they dismissed them as "rejects" and they were apparently not a "plan"), I suppose she's talking about this. The Bush admin claims that they did not ignore the Clinton PLAN for attacking Al Qaeda, the same one that Clarke and Berger pushed for in the earliest days of the Bush White House, the same one Clarke is talking about now. They say that they put the plan under the review process and it wasn't cleared until September 4th (some coincidence!). This admission, of course, didn't come out until well after 9-11, after Clarke and/or Berger told everyone that they had proposed strong actions against Al Qaeda in the form of a PLAN put together in the closing days of the Clinton White House.

Now, for one thing, I'd like proof that this PLAN was cleared by the Bush WH, had finished the review process, whatever... on September 4th. I'm guessing Sept. 4th was merely the latest piece of paperwork they could find mentioning the PLAN. The latest step in what was undoubtedly a series of meetings and memos meant to scuttle and discredit another Clinton PLAN... a PLAN that they are now in the position of trying to at once dismiss and defend.

But more to the point, if this PLAN was something that the Clinton admin had "ready to go", but merely held off due to the transition, then it should not have taken 8-9 months to "review". The Clinton WH was ready to do it right then, in late October 2000, but then the election fiasco happened. If Gore had entered the WH, this PLAN would have happened in the first couple of months of 2001, this same PLAN that the Bush WH, by their own admission, adopted much of post 9-11, AFTER we had been attacked.

According to Time Magazine, a senior Bush administration official has said that the Clinton PLAN amounted to "everything we’ve done since 9/11.” (http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/bush/elliott.htm) This is Clarke's plan that they are now trying to dismiss, simply because Clarke is criticizing the Bush administration.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:31 AM
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16. How can you have a plan
if you don't have a meeting with the person who KNOWS THE MOST ABOUT THE SUBJECT? This sounds like "The president is not a fact checker comment". DUHHHHHHH
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:36 AM
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17. Why wasn't your counter terrorism expert at the Camp David meetings?
Condi on Fox, NBC, and ABC thought that is was important to note that Clarke was not at the Camp David cabinet meetings after 9/11.....well why wasn't he? He was the top expert, you kept him on for some reason, but yet you didn't have him at the meeting to deal with terrorism?

No one has asked her that yet.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:22 AM
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20. That's the first thing that came to mind when I saw her say that
The guy was hired by Ronnie, worked for Poppy and Bill. W certainly thought he was important to have on the team. No wonder Condi doesn't want to testify. The more the admin weighs in, the worse it gets for them. Clarke was so much more credible than any of the admin mouthpieces. Truth has a way of cutting through the bs like a laser.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:37 AM
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18. Excellent points-the "review"=ignore/reject anything Clinton
The didn't just drop the ball they never picked it up!
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:13 AM
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19. And also, they are in a position of having to at once dismiss and defend..
...the very suggestions they have had to admit they adopted.

In the original Time article, admin officials did it this way: "Administration officials insist that by the time the review (of the original plan) was endorsed by the Bush principals on Sept. 4, it was more aggressive than anything contemplated the previous winter. The final plan, they say, was designed not to "roll back" al-Qaeda but to "eliminate" it."

"So, yes, we adopted the Clinton Plan (so we didn't ignore the terrorist threat), but we made it BETTER! We said "eliminate", NOT just "roll back"! "Their plan GOOD! We take it! Their plan BAD! We have to change its name!!"

Now, however, they can't just say they accepted the plan and improved upon it. Because Clarke is now coming totally out, as it were, they need to discredit him and his plan. But this amounts to discrediting their own plan.
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Palacsinta Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:30 AM
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23. She is SO incompetent!!!!
Remember when she said that her team "forgot" about the CIA intel memo re: uranium bought in Niger? That info ended up in the State of the Union speech. Afterwards,on some Sunday AM talk show, she said that she had implemented some new strategies so she and her staff would no longer have to rely only on memory!!! Like POST-IT notes? A bulliten board???
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:30 AM
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27. she still hasn't heard of al Qaeda?
Clarke said when he first discussed al Qaeda with her, her expression suggested she wasn't familiar with the term.
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