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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:45 AM
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ever heard of the pink pistols
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:52 AM
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1. This is a little dark and disturbing.
I don't think this is particularly effective politics.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:22 AM
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3. What do you mean not "particularly effective politics"? eom
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:03 AM
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2. Yes, the organization has been discussed several times on the J/PS forum
Apparently the group is just one of many special interest groups that recognize the government is not required to protect any individual.

Neither criminals nor law enforcement officers have an inalienable right to bear arms as a condition of their status, note a law enforcement officer’s right to bear arms is granted by government. Handguns are the tools of choice for those who “commit crimes” and those who “solve crimes”.

Given that citizens have the inalienable right to defend self and property, i.e. to “oppose crime”, as a condition of their status, they should be allowed the same tools as used by those without that inalienable right.
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greenwow Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:52 AM
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4. So
because they're gay and violent, we're supposed to like them unlike the just plain violent people in the NRA?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:57 AM
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5. Why do you say they are violent? eom
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greenwow Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 10:30 AM
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7. Because
like you, they often talk about using guns to kill people. You did it in your post above.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 02:45 PM
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9. You are right I implied killing, but there is a big difference between
"murder" and "justifiable homicide".

Every citizen has an inalienable right to defend themself but a criminal does not. If you choose not to defend yourself, that's a personal decision but don't blame anyone else if no one comes to your defense.

If you are a true pacifist and would stand passively while a criminal kills you, then you have my admiration for your conviction and my astonishment that you place no value on your life.
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Liberal Classic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 10:07 AM
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6. Better to defend one's self than be bashed
Or are guns so politically incorrect that gays or what-have-you minorities should never have them?
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 12:48 PM
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8. Corny name... not a bad idea.
I think that progressives should support the right to bear arms. I think events in the world are making this point crystal clear. We should not allow people to be disarmed ideologically and physically.
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Aaron Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 04:50 PM
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10. From what I've read they do very good work (n/t)
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