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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:11 AM
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They are cornered now..numbers falling.... whats next?
Makes you wonder what is going to happen with Bush and Co since Clark went out and told the truth. Worldwide protests. 9-11 commission front and center. Kerry will be back Thursday. More trouble with the Hamas incident. Coalition of the willing becoming unwilling ! Iraq protesting us. Bush and Co. trying to hold their seats. More troops dying...Military families speaking out ! The Vietnam screw up looking like Iraq or visa versa.
with Kerry's tesimony of 4/71. This bunch is cornered.
I get a little scared of wild animals cornered. Whats next?
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:12 AM
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1. Incoming...
:evilfrown:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:13 AM
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2. It is looking better, but
Don't forget, we have to deal with the Fright Wing media - talk radio, all the Tribune newspapers, Faux news, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, etc.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:13 AM
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3. expect anything...
I don't think anything is too outlandish for them to try at this point.
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MichaelUK Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:14 AM
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4. IMHO
Not much. Hopefully the informed members of the US citizenry will get up and get Bush out of office. Iraq will rumble on (best of luck Kerry - you're going to need it to deal with that mess), more soldiers will die, Europe will be hit by another terrorist attack in the next year and dislike the US even more...

Same shit, different year

Oh, and the dollar will collapse, the US will hit hyperinflation and you will be forced to adopt the superior currencies of the Pound Sterling or Euro. Bwahahahaha!!
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marie123 Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:15 AM
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5. you should be afraid
One thing that bush has been consistent with is his pulling a rabbit out of his hat.

It seems whenever I think he is going down he comes back with a smack that knocks ya out for awhile. I am watching to see if he does it again
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:20 AM
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6. continued fear, massive smear campaigns and vote fraud
It's all they have.

Another MIHOP/LIHOP against the US and they will be blamed.

They already have lied to the max about the economy. There is no way to make it sound any better than they have already.

The unparalleled media propaganda blitz on the anniversary of the invasion of Iraq hurt more than it helped, so the usual faux patriotic rah rah isn't working.

Catching Osama would give only a few days and a few points blip.

They can kill a few political enemies, suspend civil liberties (and start a civil war), and continue with their Nurnberg-style repuke rallies, but that won't be enough.

They'll have to keep the foreign bombings coming and pull the orange alert lever a few times. Then, they'll spend their hundred million bucks to try to smear Kerry into oblivion and hope it disillusions enough voters to keep the election close enough for their vote fraud machine to effect another coup.

It is my guess that Kerry will need to actually win about 70% of the popular vote in order to barely "officially" win due to the repuke fraud machine.
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:23 AM
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7. The media will try to dismiss this Clarke stuff...
I see it coming
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:27 AM
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8. How're we gonna deal widdit? Way-ell, lessee............
Hey!!! Looky there!!!! Gay people!!!! An' ey're gittin' MARRIED!!!!









That's how.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:18 PM
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14. MARTHA STEWART, MICHAEL JACKSON...
... JANET JACKSONS TITTY, SCOTT PETERSON, GAY PEOPLE COMING AFTER YOU, BOY SCOUTS...

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...
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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:29 AM
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9. I read this morning That Al-Queda endorses Kerry.
and supported the election in Spain. And the president of North Korea wants Kerry to win too. And,And there is a link between Iraq and Al-Queda because an unnamed top terrorist said that's why Spain was attacked. See? See?
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:36 AM
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10. Well I know they are terrified of another Terrorist attack
The main thing Bush* is going to run on is that we have had no more attacks on American soil since 9-11. Bush* has kept us safe. That is their talking point. I heard it on several talking head shows Sunday. If there is another attack Bush* will lose that sound bite as well as all the others he has lost because they haven't panned out. I hope they get lucky and no new attacks occur because I think we will whip his ass anyway and Americans don't need any more suffering.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:38 AM
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11. faked assassination attempt on George
I have had the premonition for a while.

I would really like to see some aggressive replies from the Kerry campaign re this Richard Clark thing and all the desperate spin coming out of the RR mouths--and it reeks of desperation--they have all crawled out from under a rock to deny it and to smear Clark--including our wonderful Mr. Lieberman

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dpibel Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 01:44 PM
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19. Call it "The Bob Roberts Gambit" n/t

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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 02:09 PM
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21. No, Kerry needs to lay low on this
and let his surrogates - - Wes Clark, Dean, Jamie Rubin, etc - - speak.

It's so much better that some of the press go after him, and some of the dems.

The ski vacation is brilliant timing.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 11:40 AM
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12. deleted message--posted same thing twice.
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 11:41 AM by Marianne
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:00 PM
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13. Blame Clinton and Kerry of course!

They'll try to muddy the waters as much as possible. Only the True Believers will buy into it, most people will be ambivalent and let events tell them who's right.

Reality is cruel to Bush and his supporters. They tried to rule without a grasp on it- even against it- for three years, now it's taking ever larger compensatory chunks out of their derrieres.

Last guys don't finish nice.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:21 PM
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15. Surrogates should respond on Clarke revalations, not Kerry...
try to remember the Shrub campaign, and since the election, the really mean nasty stuff hs always been done by someone else, and keep Shrub above the fray.

I can't stand any part of this administration, but I think they have a very effective stratedgy.

Kerry should make his statements allright, but let the mean nasty stuff up to Carvel, Bagala, Biden, Kennedy, etc. People who are going to hate already hate them! Lots don't hate Kerry...yet! Don't give them a reason.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:28 PM
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16. That Hannity deal may be upcoming
Sean the joke Hannity said Martial law if another
terrorists attack. Bush does not want to go to the Hague with Saddam. He has enough junk on him now, that may very well where he could be headed if the UN steps in and demands and inernational inquiry. I wonder if that is where we are headed. Sanctions and UN resolutions against the USA? wouldn't surprise me any. Nothing does at this stage of the game. And make no mistake about it, this mafia like bunch does consider it a game of war and wits.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:41 PM
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17. March 26-28, San Francisco
International Inquiry into 9-11, Phase One, San Francisco, March 26-28th 2004

http://www.deceptiondollar.com/Inquiry911program.htm

Whereas the tragic events of 9-11 have been used by the United States government to justify a war upon the world, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights; Whereas the Joint House and Senate Inquiry of September 11, 2001 and the Independent National Commission on Terrorist Attacks have not served to “reveal the truth about the events of September 11, 2001,” but to justify increasing the power of the National Security State;
Whereas the mass-circulation press in the United States has failed to ask the most basic questions about what actually happened on September 11, 2001, and has supported the extension of US. military might throughout the world;
We, who question the official narrative of September 11, 2001, and question the path the U.S. government has chosen in its wake, believe a public inquiry-- asking who, what, how, when and why -- into those events is vitally necessary. Therefore, this Inquiry intends to bring together, to share what they have learned with the world, independent researchers, questioners, seekers of evidence, authors, film-makers: all those who desire and work to discover the truth about September 11, 2001.
Our hope is to create a safe space for new witnesses and testimony to come forward, and to deepen common understanding of the enormously complex events that preceded, occurred on and followed the attacks of September 11th 2001. Evidence suggests that September 11, 2001 was a special operation designed to terrorize Americans into silent conformity, to legitimize the crushing of dissent throughout the world, and to gain public support for imperial wars. Our hope is to disempower “the war game” once and for all, by exposing the criminal actions of those in power who committed crimes against humanity to advance that power.
Oral presentations and films will take place in the historic Herbst Theatre in the War Memorial and Veterans Building. A nominal fee will cover plenary sessions. Additionally, meeting rooms will be available for registered participants who are researchers/activists to confer together; their findings will be brought before the public on Sunday afternoon, at the conclusion of the Inquiry.
Invited and * confirmed speakers include-
Mike Ruppert* From the Wilderness

Daniel Hopsicker* Mad Cow Morning News

Kris Millegan* Trine Day Press
Alex Jones* Info Wars
Nafeez Ahmed*, Author of The War on Freedom- How and Why America was Attacked September 11, 2001 and Behind the War on Terror: Western Secret Strategy and the Struggle for Iraq
Andreas Von Buelow* Former German Minister, who authored "The CIA and September 11" (but he is concerned that he won’t be allowed into the country, at this time)
Thierry Meyssan* Author of The Big Lie and The Pentagate (but government wouldn't give him a visa last December and Pentagon said he “is unwelcome in the U.S.”)
Ken Jenkins* Videographer 9-11 Activist
Barrie Zwicker* Producer of "The Great Deception"
Riva Enteen* Member of The National Lawyer's Guild
Joyce Lynn* Journalist Editor of Political Diary
Grey Brechin*, Author of Imperial San Francisco- Urban Power/Earthly Ruin
Sander Hicks* Founder, Former Publisher of Soft Skull Press, Inc.(who published "Fortunate Son- George W. Bush and the Making of an American President"), Founder/CEO of Drench Kiss Media Corporation
Mark Taylor
Elizabeth Gould and Paul Fitzgerald*, Producers of- Afghanistan Between Three Worlds (for PBS). Currently working on the book- Shattering Myths and Claiming the Future.
Webster Tarpley*, Author of The Unauthorized biography of George H. W. Bush.
Richard Heinberg* Author of The Party's Over: War, Oil and the Fate of Industrial Societies
Nicholas Levis Organizer of the Berlin September 11, 2003 Conference
Jim Hoffman* Webmaster of www.wtc7.net
Jerry Russell* Webmaster of 9-11Strike.com
Bruce Gagnon* Coordinator for the Global Network Against Weapons and Nuclear Power in Space
Ralph Schoenman* and Mya Shone* Co-Producer with Ralph Shoenmann of the Radio Program-Taking Aim
Jim Marrs* Author of The War on Freedom- The 9-11 Conspiracies
Ian Woods* Editor Global Outlook Magazine
Ellen Mariani*,wife of 911 victim and her attorney Phil Berg* (Ellen Mariani filed a civil RICO action lawsuit against President Bush and other high level members of his administration based upon prior knowledge of 911; knowingly failing to act, prevent or warn of 911; and the ongoing obstruction of justice by covering up the truth of 911; all in violation of the laws of the United States.) www.911forthetruth.com
Michel Chossudovsky (video message), Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and Director of the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG).Author of War and Globalisation: The Truth Behind September 11 and The Globalization of Poverty and the New World Order

Featured films- The Great Deception, Aftermath- Unanswered Questions from 9-11, The Most Dangerous Game- Mind Control
excerpts from- Arsenal of Hypocrisy, Liberty Bound, The End of Suburbia- Oil Depletion and the Collapse of the American Dream, Guerrilla News Network's latest documentary with a focus on Flight 93, The Woman in Exile
In addition to the main presentations in the Herbst Theatre, there will also be presentations, films shown, public dialogues with speakers on topics raised in the program, tabling of resource materials, on the second floor of the War Memorial and Veteran's Building, where the Herbst Theatre is located- open to the general public who have purchased tickets for the Herbst Theatre. Following each presentation, speakers will move to a room on the second floor to dialogue on the topic that they have raised (with the exception of Riva Enteen who has a meeting Saturday, but will be in the Dialogue room 10:00 AM Sunday morning). The other presentations, film schedule, will be in the printed program or posted prominently in the lobby, resource room, and on the doors of rooms open to ticket-holders. The Law of Two Feet- if you are not learning or contributing- use your feet- applies to everyone. We will have one and a half hour meal breaks, and hope to encourage much dialogue and discussion.


Full Inquiry Participants must register in advance. Please read about Open Space to understand the spirit and processes we'll be using.
http://www.co-intelligence.org/P-Openspace.html

Register
http://www.communitycurrency.org/Registration.html

The public may purchase tickets from the City Box Office ($20 per day) beginning in early February.
http://www.cityboxoffice.com/


Event Sponsored by:
The San Francisco Bay Guardian - KPFA 94.1 Free Speech Radio
Veterans for Peace: American Legion Post 315 - Guns and Butter
From the Wilderness Publications - Global Outlook Magazine
New Society Publishers - Origin Press - 911sharethetruth.com
DeceptionDollar.com - Marin Peace and Justice Coalition
Global Network Against Nuclear Weapons and Nuclear Power in Space
WING TV - Blue Moose Films - National 911Visibilty.org Project
The Meridian News - SnowShoeFilms - The 9-11 Truth Alliance

Toronto, Canada - Phase 2 - June
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 12:45 PM
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18. I am beginning to think that this is where the bush* is dumb thing
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 12:46 PM by FoeOfBush
hurts us. I think he is quite a few cards short of a full deck, but I think the bush* is too dumb thing allows him an out. Americans love an underdog, and a dumb underdog even more so. This allows bush* wiggleroom with a large part of the populace. It may also be one of the reasons none of the myriad of scandals to date has "stuck". Afterall the more complex the scandal, the harder it is to pin on the dumb guy.

A shift is in order to reframe bush* from the dumb guy to the man in charge. You don't have to defer to his genius or anything, but he must be seen as the one person responsible, like this;

bush*, as our first "MBA president" ought to have known better to run deficits of this size and potential duration.

A Yale/Harvard educated man should know that SOMEONE should be fired for the debacle that was 9/11. He got the best education money could buy, and he's still went to war in Iraq over 911 when he has admitted there is no connection between the two (insert gwb* quote about no iraq/911 connection here).

This will make it much easier for the public to accept the truth.

Edit: remove double negative
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 02:00 PM
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20. You are quite correct
This is what Bush calls "misunderestimating me". He's ruthless, determined, committed, self-righteous, judgemental and a wannabe dictator. It doesn't matter that he can't read. What matters is how damaging he can be, has been and will be.

http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13
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