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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:22 PM
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Richard Clarke: Claim vs. Fact
CLAIM #1: “Richard Clarke had plenty of opportunities to tell us in the administration that he thought the war on terrorism was moving in the wrong direction and he chose not to.” - National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04

FACT: Clarke sent a memo to Rice principals on 1/24/01 marked “urgent” asking for a Cabinet-level meeting to deal with an impending Al Qaeda attack. The White House acknowledges this, but says “principals did not need to have a formal meeting to discuss the threat.” No meeting occurred until one week before 9/11. - White House Press Release, 3/21/04

CLAIM #2: “The president returned to the White House and called me in and said, I've learned from George Tenet that there is no evidence of a link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.” - National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04

FACT: If this is true, then why did the President and Vice President repeatedly claim Saddam Hussein was directly connected to 9/11? President Bush sent a letter to Congress on 3/19/03 saying that the Iraq war was permitted specifically under legislation that authorized force against “nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11.” Similarly, Vice President Cheney said on 9/14/03 that “It is not surprising that people make that connection” between Iraq and the 9/11 attacks, and said “we don’t know” if there is a connection.

More: http://www.atrios.blogspot.com/
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:29 PM
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1. What the f....
what the fuck????
HOW can these people lie so repeatedly, continuously, shamelessly, and STUPIDLY???
Do they really think that their WORD is enough and that nobody will call them on their deceptions?? Good night, practically every move a politician makes these days is caught on film; are they really so stupid (or is it just the arrogance?) that they think they will not be shown up for the liars they are??
And now that Rummy was shown as the liar HE is, they really cannot honsestly try to deny this still...and yet, there they are, lying and fabricating and spinning and waffling and panicking, and the fucking 'liberal media' is enabling it all....
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:41 PM
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4. They believe it because
so far their word HAS been enough. :(
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:33 PM
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2. carville called bush on lies after 9/11 and calling military up
and how he didnt, never did. was a general after the hit on pentagon that did. and tucker says so what. and be ashamed calling bush a liar and even if he did so what.

is that for real
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:38 PM
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3. They can continue with their lies thanks to the MEDIA!!!
All you have to do is to listen and watch. It's unvelievable!!
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:45 PM
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5. It's called "Faith Based Everythiing"....
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 06:10 PM
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8. FBE...
That's a keeper..
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:48 PM
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6. Excellent resource
I've been looking for something to use to refute claims (on another webboard) that Clarke just has 'sour grapes' and was 'only doing this to sell his book'. Should be a major help, thanks.

On another note, WTF were/are they thinking?!? Blows my mind.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:51 PM
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7. Just think!
We can all use this information in a "letter to the editor" of local and regional newspapers. Then the media will be reporting it. It will not be the "front page," it's true. But it will be in one of the most popular sections of any newspaper. And everyone who does this can feel better about themselves than if they DON'T do it and them blame others for not doing it, either! As the H2O Man, I say let justice flow like letters to the editor in your hometown newspapers!
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:13 PM
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9. kick
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:16 PM
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10. Fire the liars!!!!
n/t
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