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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:45 PM
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How many people read "The Price of Loyalty" and were
really really scared?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:48 PM
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1. I was pissed off.. I was angry.. I was upset that Americans...
would allow themselves to be fooled.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:49 PM
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2. I was scared...That much stupidty in charge of this country...
:scared:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:50 PM
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3. I was frightened by the revelations - yes
And I was surprised at how much I came away respecting O'Neill. Now I want to know exactly what they said to him to make him back off the day after.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:51 PM
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5. Threatened his family...I got the sense that he loves his family
and it is a common tactic.
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:50 PM
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4. Not scared, furious
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 07:51 PM by coalminersdaughter
I also came away with great respect for Paul O'Neill. I would love to have lunch with him some day.

edit: spelling
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:52 PM
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7. He might be wrong on the private accounts but he is someone to
respect.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:51 PM
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6. I was angry...cause people just dont seem to care...at least 50% of people
n/t
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:54 PM
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8. I was scared when O'Neill got scared
as he discovered Dick Cheney undercutting him every step of the way. He'd worked with him for years and thought he knew him well. After observing Cheney's sinister dirty dealing, he began to wonder, "Who IS Dick, really?" That was scary.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:55 PM
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9. Dick is a dick...We need to get those two GONE!
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:47 PM
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19. That was scary
And the part about one of the leaks- One of O'Neill's reports was leaked and Bush made that snide remark that disturbed O'Neill- something about O'Neill being a real "truth teller."

It had me wondering who REALLY had B*shie's ear and if that person was feeding him lies. Did someone tell Bush that O'Neill himself was the one who leaked the report?

F*cking scary. A paranoid boy king, easily manipulated by people w/ less than noble motivations. :scared:
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:02 PM
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10. what i'm scared about is
how o'neill has disappeared from the media. when asked if he feared repercussions from the administration, o'neill replied by saying i'm old, and i'm rich so what can they do to me. well, it appears they've done something.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:03 PM
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11. Learning that the *meetings* were totally scripted was scary.
What should have been working meetings becoming scripted and staged....it's pretty obvious that someone besides the chimp is in charge.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:04 PM
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12. Not scared, more suprised...
...at what an asshole Bush was (is?). Frankly after reading the book it seems Bush is not up to the job. Its like having Dan Quayle as president...though i think Quayle was sharper than Bush.

Cheney seemed to be running the show in the O'Neil book. Either that or Bush had "made his mind up" and didnt want to listen to different facts or POVs on issues. ...Bushes "I dont argue with myself" statement...which franky makes him sound like a real doof.



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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:20 PM
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15. Even Marilyn Quayle said it
As Marilyn Quayle bitterly told The Arizona Republic, “the caricature they made of Dan in ‘88 is George W. It’s him. It wasn’t true about Dan. But it is him. ... A guy that never accomplished anything. ... Everything he got, Daddy took care of.”

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:40 PM
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18. scary to think GWB makes Dan Quayle look smart.
I wonder if Shrub knows how to spell potato
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:56 PM
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20. Thats amazing
t....hat she said that, and that was my impression, too.

I think the Quayle thing was sort of a charicture. But he wasnt a complete doof like W.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:06 PM
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13. it was hard for me to read
so i haven't gotten all that far. yet, at any rate. there's some really... unctuous sounding language in there. it paints o'neill as too much of a nonpartisan saint. i'm sure it's full of good information... but i hate slogging through bad writing to get it.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:08 PM
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14. I view it like reading Alan Colmes book.
I hate chunks but it has gold.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:36 PM
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17. Bad writing...isn't Susskind a writer?
O'Neill's story with Susskind writing it?

No editor for Susskind - sounds strange.
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:25 PM
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16. When I read it
I realized Yes things are as bad as I thought! O'Neill is telling me this? In this here book. Rut Row! Shaggy! :wow: I'm thinking we are really in some deep poo!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:59 PM
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21. suskind
Read it and was disgusted and really pissed more than scared, it pretty much confirmed much of what i already considered conventional wisdon regarding the squatter-in-chief. I'm now working my way through American dynasty.
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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:16 PM
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22. Not scared - I was sickened
Paul O'Neill is a man of principle. It was quite obvious from his accounts and experiences in Bushco that there was no room for someone who wanted to do what was right for the American people. The more I read about this bunch of fanatical lunatics in charge of our government the angrier I get. We can only hope and pray that they will get their just rewards - a one way express trip to HELL!
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