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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:52 PM
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Administration Officials Respond to Richard Clarke Interview
This should be sent out far and wide...

CLAIM vs. FACT: Administration Officials Respond to Richard Clarke Interview by David Sirota

In the wake of Richard Clarke's well-supported assertions that the Bush Administration neglected counterterrorism in the face of repeated terror warnings before 9/11, the Bush Administration has launched a frantic misinformation campaign - often contradicting itself in the process.



CLAIM #1: "Richard Clarke had plenty of opportunities to tell us in the administration that he thought the war on terrorism was moving in the wrong direction and he chose not to." - National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04

FACT: Clarke sent a memo to Rice principals on 1/24/01 marked "urgent" asking for a Cabinet-level meeting to deal with an impending Al Qaeda attack. The White House acknowledges this, but says "principals did not need to have a formal meeting to discuss the threat." No meeting occurred until one week before 9/11. - White House Press Release, 3/21/04



CLAIM #2: "The president returned to the White House and called me in and said, I've learned from George Tenet that there is no evidence of a link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11." - National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04

FACT: If this is true, then why did the President and Vice President repeatedly claim Saddam Hussein was directly connected to 9/11? President Bush sent a letter to Congress on 3/19/03 saying that the Iraq war was permitted specifically under legislation that authorized force against "nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11." Similarly, Vice President Cheney said on 9/14/03 that "It is not surprising that people make that connection" between Iraq and the 9/11 attacks, and said "we don't know" if there is a connection.



CLAIM #3: "(Clarke) was moved out of the counterterrorism business over to the cybersecurity side of things." - Vice President Dick Cheney on Rush Limbaugh, 3/22/04

FACT: "Dick Clarke continued, in the Bush Administration, to be the National Coordinator for Counterterrorism and the President's principle counterterrorism expert. He was expected to organize and attend all meetings of Principals and Deputies on terrorism. And he did." - White House Press Release, 3/21/04



CLAIM #4: "In June and July when the threat spikes were so high we were at battle stations. The fact of the matter is (that) the administration focused on this before 9/11." - National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04

FACT: "Documents indicate that before Sept. 11, Ashcroft did not give terrorism top billing in his strategic plans for the Justice Department, which includes the FBI. A draft of Ashcroft's 'Strategic Plan' from Aug. 9, 2001, does not put fighting terrorism as one of the department's seven goals, ranking it as a sub-goal beneath gun violence and drugs. By contrast, in April 2000, Ashcroft's predecessor, Janet Reno, called terrorism 'the most challenging threat in the criminal justice area.'" - Washington Post, 3/22/04



CLAIM #5: "The president launched an aggressive response after 9/11." - National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04

FACT: "In the early days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the Bush White House cut by nearly two-thirds an emergency request for counterterrorism funds by the FBI, an internal administration budget document shows. The papers show that Ashcroft ranked counterterrorism efforts as a lower priority than his predecessor did, and that he resisted FBI requests for more counterterrorism funding before and immediately after the attacks." - Washington Post, 3/22/04



CLAIM #6: "Well, (Clarke) wasn't in the loop, frankly, on a lot of this stuff." - Vice President Dick Cheney, 3/22/04

FACT: "The Government's interagency counterterrorism crisis management forum (the Counterterrorism Security Group, or "CSG") chaired by Dick Clarke met regularly, often daily, during the high threat period." - White House Press Release, 3/21/04



CLAIM #7: "(Bush) wanted a far more effective policy for trying to deal with (terrorism), and that process was in motion throughout the spring." - Vice President Dick Cheney on Rush Limbaugh, 3/22/04

FACT: "Bush said (in May of 2001) that Cheney would direct a government-wide review on managing the consequences of a domestic attack, and 'I will periodically chair a meeting of the National Security Council to review these efforts.' Neither Cheney's review nor Bush's took place." - Washington Post, 1/20/02
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:57 PM
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1. EarlG, your research is appreciated!
I'll refer to it many times in the near future and claim it as my own. :D

Seriously. That was a great bit of information. You get a cookie!



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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:31 PM
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11. Not my research
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 09:34 PM by EarlG
I got it via email - just doing my bit to pass it along.

On edit - it appears this has already been posted. It's from the Center for American Progress.

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=39828
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:57 PM
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2. They didn't think Saddam was involved in 9/11.....
Because if they did, they would have made up lies and invaded anyway, no matter what the facts said. Oh! That's what they did !
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:01 PM
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3. Yep, they lied so much they couldn't keep thier stories straight
anymore. Thanks for putting this together in a nice neat package. I was getting a headache trying to keep them sorted out.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:05 PM
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4. Wait a minute, on Claim #6
Cheney, speaking on Limbaugh, direclty conflicts that WH press release you excerpted.

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:20 PM
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8. What did he say on Rush? n/t
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:14 PM
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5. "wasn't in the loop"....
CLAIM #6: "Well, (Clarke) wasn't in the loop, frankly, on a lot of this stuff." - Vice President Dick Cheney, 3/22/04

FACT: "The Government's interagency counterterrorism crisis management forum (the Counterterrorism Security Group, or "CSG") chaired by Dick Clarke met regularly, often daily, during the high threat period." - White House Press Release, 3/21/04


Josh Marshall pointed out that Richard Clarke "was the loop". Marshall's comment made me think if Clarke wasn't in the loop, then the Bush administration was doing legitimate job of researching terrorism.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:20 PM
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7. What I think is the Buishy guys are killing the Messenger to distract from
the message. Typical Pub move.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:18 PM
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6. Claim #8: Bush is a uniter, not a divider.
Fact: The world is united against George Bush!
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:20 PM
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9. DUPE
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:32 PM
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12. Oh crap!
Well, I suppose I should probably, er, lock this or something...

Maybe I'll just wait for a moderator to show up :evilgrin:
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:45 PM
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13. lol! That's okay - it deserves two threads
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:46 PM
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14. Join the club of famous dupe posters. I am the record holder I think?
If I am not the record holder, I know I have to be close. :)

Don

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:22 PM
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10. I sent it out
Spread far and wide
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:08 PM
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15. Claim #2 (only ONE hit on Google!)
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CLAIM #2: "The president returned to the White House and called me in and said, I've learned from George Tenet that there is no evidence of a link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11." - National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, 3/22/04

FACT: If this is true, then why did the President and Vice President repeatedly claim Saddam Hussein was directly connected to 9/11? President Bush sent a letter to Congress on 3/19/03 saying that the Iraq war was permitted specifically under legislation that authorized force against "nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11." Similarly, Vice President Cheney said on 9/14/03 that "It is not surprising that people make that connection" between Iraq and the 9/11 attacks, and said "we don't know" if there is a connection.


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Googled for this, and got only ONE hit! This one:
(this was shown on some news station yesterday)

http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000576.php

President Bush (when asked to compare Al Queda and Saddam Hussein):

"And so uh, uh, a comparison that uh, uh, is uh, well I can't make because I can't distinguish between the two, because they're both equally as bad, and equally as evil, and equally as destructive."

Sure you can take out the first part of the sentence out and he won't look quite so blatantly stupid, but that still won't change the fact that the second part of the sentence doesn't make any sense.

"I can't distinguish between the two, because they're both equally as bad, and equally as evil, and equally as destructive."

In a separate statement that came either before or after the one above (but during the same interview), he also said plainly:

"You can't distinguish between Al Queda and Saddam when you talk about the War On Terror."

To which Jon Stewart replied during his Daily Show report:

"You can't? You know what? I'm gonna try. Al Queda is an ideologically-driven underground ultra-Islamic terrorist network and Saddam Hussein is the dictator of a secular middle eastern nation that seeks mild regional dominance. I did it! They said it couldn't be done!" (Enter confetti and horn blower noises.) "I did it! I've done it!"
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That doesn't jibe with condi's asssertion today.

And why, when searching for - bush "can't distinguish between al queda" - do I only get one hit. It was an interview that made the Daily Show, and was shown last night as well. Why only one hit?
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:14 PM
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16. The Truth
email it to all the media outlits,
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:21 PM
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17. Isn't this just the "official" response from the WH?
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